May 3, 2007

Jumping The Snark

Atlantic Monthly's Andrew Sullivan has spent the last few years raging about the Bush administration and its predilection for torture. He has also written extensively on the supposedly degrading effect the television show “24″ has on the nation, and how it fits into a Fox/neocon mentality and to desensitize us to the horror of torture. Unfortunately, this predisposed Andrew to fall for a rather obvious hoax at a website devoted to entertainment satire. Has Andrew jumped the snark? Join us at Heading Right to discuss!


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Posted by hunter [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 8:03 AM

After listening to Sullivan's childishness in his Hugh Hewitt interview, I would suggest that Sullivan is vastly over rated and that it is completely normal that his phony reasoning would be using deliberate satire to shore itself up.

Posted by rbj [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 8:17 AM

Sully will now claim that he was set up by Karl Rove.

Posted by syn [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 8:33 AM

Torture is degrating to society? Guess Sully might then want to do a reportage on the degrating impact of NYC S&M clubs; in that world torture is fun and good for sexual pleasure.

The thing that bugs me about those who profess their disgust towards torture and its degradation to our society is that these are the same people who will show up to a screening of a movie about beastiality to profess how enlightening an experience it is to watch some guy being screwed by a horse and how everyone else is sexually uptight for not watching.

Since words and their meaning can be so easily interchanged these days, maybe the military should just change the language of torture as a means to intelligence gathering to torture is simply a means to satisfying the sexual desires of human enlightenment.

Posted by RBMN [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 8:56 AM

It's the Mary Mapes/Al Gore/Rosie O'Donnell standard of Truth, which is: "If it reinforces my own feeling, and enough people believe it deeply, then in some spiritual sense it's absolutely true, and that's good enough for me, Mary Mapes/Al Gore/Rosie O'Donnell. Also, I must tell the world about it, and people that disagree with me must have been bought off. What other explanation is there for disagreement?"

Posted by Ripper [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 9:08 AM

What a shame that someone like Sullivan who was one of the most articulate advocates for the defense of Western Civilization against Islamofascist barbarism has become Arianna Huffingtonized.

Posted by PersonFromPorlock [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 9:19 AM

Sullivan turned against Bush over gay marriage and since doing so has given the world the definitive example of the Fearsome Snit.

Posted by krm [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 12:15 PM

Sullivan jumped the shark long ago. It turns out he is the worst sort of one issue guy (the gay agenda) and has decided to completely demonize anyone who is not with him on that one issue.

Posted by jr565 [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 1:14 PM

I think Sullivan's jumping the shark ties into his getting a sleep apnea machine. I used to read him, and found him quite articulate about fighting a war against terror, and then he started mentioning how he just got a new machine to fight his sleep apnea.
Then within weeks he started sounding more and more fringy, and strident, and like a drama queen and doctrinaire. It has to be the sleep apnea machine.

Granted it's only an opinion, but I"m thinking that his sleep apnea machine addled his brains.

Posted by Maetenloch [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 2:08 PM

I don't think it was the CPAP machine for sleep apnea - he really started going wobbly when the boyfriend appeared. The thing about Sullivan is that while he's smart and a good writer, he's essentially a narcissist. Whatever he believes in or happens to him in his personal life suddenly becomes _The_Most_Important_Issue_Facing_America_ whether it's being an 'Eagle', apnea, gay marriage, etc. Even when he was an editor at the New Republic, people joked that he would declare the core of Conservatism to be whereever he was at the moment. That's still true today - even though he's essentialy gone over to the left on every major issue, he still considers himself the one true conservative.

Posted by Blaise [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 3:47 PM

I think that the most ironic part of this is the quote from George Orwell that Sullivan has, pretentiously, placed at the top of his blog. It says: "To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle."

All I can say is this: Sullivan's strugglin'

'nuff said

Posted by jr565 [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 3:51 PM

maetenloch wrote:
That's still true today - even though he's essentialy gone over to the left on every major issue, he still considers himself the one true conservative.

See, that's Andrews conservatism of doubt at work.
what that essentially means is that we his readers now have some doubts about his sanity.

Posted by Steven Den Beste [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 3, 2007 9:09 PM

Sullivan suffers from an overdose of earnestness. These Things Are Too Important To Make Jokes About.

Posted by patrick neid [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 4, 2007 4:32 PM

i read his blog religiously for several years. in fact i donated money when he first asked for help. as some commentators mentioned above, sullivan got himself all turned around when the bush admin said negative things about the gay marriage proposals. he wrote a rant about it and continued to do so for many weeks. it has clouded his vision ever since. it really is a shame.