May 10, 2007

Day 94 And Not Much Has Changed

House Democrats passed another version of the Iraq war supplemental this evening, voting to supply funds for only 60 days of operations in the theater. The vote split along party lines, meaning that the Senate will have to find another formula if the funds are to get to the troops in time:

The Democratic-controlled House voted Thursday night to pay for military operations in Iraq on an installment plan, defying President Bush's threat of a second straight veto in a fierce test of wills over the unpopular war.

The 221-205 vote, largely along party lines, sent the measure to a cool reception in the Senate, where Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., is seeking compromise with the White House and Republicans on a funding bill.

Under increasing political pressure from Republicans, Bush also signalled flexibility, offering to accept a spending bill that sets out standards for the Iraqi government to meet.

"Time's running out, because the longer we wait the more strain we're going to put on the military," said the president, who previously had insisted on what he termed a "clean" war funding bill.

There is no possibility this will become law. In the first place, the Democrats got almost no Republican support for this approach. Minority Whip Roy Blunt caustically noted that "the second act is more disturbing and dangerous than the first." Even if the Senate decided to follow suit, the bill would not survive a veto, and Congress would have to start over again -- and they've taken 94 days to get this far.

But the Senate won't follow suit. With George Bush backing down on benchmarks, Harry Reid wants to move past the supplemental and start working on other priorities. And now that the Iraqis have begun to press for timelines, the Democrats probably can let events take their natural course. Senate Democrats will likely work with the GOP and the White House to wring concessions on benchmarks and push for complete funding in conference, and the House will likely acquiesce.

The Senate should have their approach ready next week. We can expect that an acceptable supplemental will pass out of conference, and that the Democrats will keep the pressure on for a September showdown.

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Posted by TomB [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 8:35 PM

The only thing which is not in a deadlock is time, which slowly tic-tacks. Democrats will come with still another resolution, even more ridiculous, then go for vacations...
Maybe Saudi Arabia can lend us a dollar, or China?
If not, it is time to start bringing troops home, and fast.

Posted by Rose [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 8:51 PM


If they force our troops home without a clear victory, then it is time for American citizens to get themselves batted down for Hell on Earth.

Alan Colmes is denouncing the calling of the Dix Six as jihadists, you know all the dims will be on that page...

I live too close to the border, it will be time for Americans to be prepared to fight for life without any support from govt.

We all know where that will go - they'll already ruled that Americans don't have a right to Life.

Posted by Bill M [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 8:56 PM

I hope you right Cap'n, but I suspect Reid will cave again and the Senate will pass just about the same thing as the House. Then veto time again and back to square one. I have no faith in the Democrats whatsoever. They'd sell their mothers down the river and stab their sisters in the back for a chance to beat George Bush. They do not support the troops; in fact, they could care less about them.

Posted by Lightwave [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 8:59 PM

It continues to amaze me that the "First 100 Hours" legislators can be motivated enough to pass pork, earmarks, and call AG Gonzales to the Hill every few weeks, but they can't pass a real war funding bill during a critical phase. Most folks would call that sabotage.

Alas, all this Congress can do is pass meaningless, symbolic legislation. You notice the Dems aren't bringing up their usual complaints about how the Pentagon doesn't send the troops into Iraq with body armor and Humvees anymore. I wonder why that is?

Could it be the fact the Blue Dog Dems know that history will be ruthless to them if they fail to pass a fully funded, string-free bill in a matter of weeks, if not days? Could it be that they know that every day past this point that they do not get this bill to the President's desk they will lose another House seat in '08?

And yet I'm shocked...SHOCKED I tell you!...to see the Blue Dogs vote yes once again on a bill that has zero chance of even making it to the President's desk. I had hoped they would send a loud and clear message to the American people, the troops, the moonbats and the terrorists that America plans to stick this out for however long it takes.

Alas, they are not the voice of reason I hoped for. And the clock is ticking. Eventually it will reach the point where General Patraeus will say "The goals of the deployment were within sight, but they were eventually not met because we did not have the funds for the equipment we needed." And that single sentence will END the Democratic Party for decades. That is the day the Democrats will take full blame for any failures in Iraq, any soldiers killed in battle, any Iraqis slaughtered in civil war, any regional conflagration that arises, any energy crisis that results and any economic disaster that may befall us from that day forward. It will be horrendous, and in '08 they will be driven from Washington, not to return to majority power for a very long time.

The alternative? The President stands firm, gets the funding we need to win the war we are fighting, and the success will continue to build until the point the Pelosi Democrats become nothing more than an interesting footnote in history...but it will be a history where Iraqi is a free democracy, Iran is not a nuclear power, and militant Islam is on the run.

Posted by TheConfusedOne [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 9:26 PM

Day 94 and nothing yet.

Meanwhile the D's belly ache about how little progress the Iraqi congress has made solving such "minor" issues like Oil revenue sharing and trying to build a new government from the ground up. They want the Iraqis to accomplish in less time these major items when they can't even pass a supplemental spending bill in that time without the additional external threats that the Iraqi politicians face.

Posted by Bill Faith [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 9:55 PM

I won't make any attempt to summarize it and steal his thunder but Dafydd ab Hugh has an excellent "what comes next?" post at the top of Big Lizards right now. I linked it, and this post, in my  2007.05.10 Dem Perfidy // Islamism Delenda Est Roundup

Posted by BillT | May 10, 2007 10:02 PM

Funny that we decide to cave when Iraqis start to kill Al Queda members and our troops on the ground are making big gains.

It's like throwing in the towel after you knock down your opponent with a right hook. Go figure.

Posted by nolakola [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 10:13 PM

Iraq is not the mess it is because of the spending bill. the surge is not sputtering because of this spending bill. this spending bill will eventually pass in some form and have absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this war.

Posted by Carol_Herman [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 10, 2007 10:36 PM

Not Exactly.

Some has changed. Mood and spirit.

Yesterday, Drudge flagged his millions of readers, that a delegation of House members, from the GOP side of the aisle, went to the White House. YES, over the heads of "leadership" ... which must mean "leadership" in the House, for the minority; somehow got swept up in pelosi's rag; and got discarded. Out'ta da House.

Well, since I read Tom DeLay's excellent adventures in politics; I was not surprised. Because there seems to be a mutiny "somewhere."

Mutinies don't start in the captain's quarters. But, I think from somewhere below deck.

Today's headline chaser?

Drudge has up that Rove is FURIOUS. So Rove got on the horn. Someone else got on the LOUDSPEAKER. And, now you know.

Etiquette's been breached.

And, while the donks haven't lost one of their members, yet; crossing the aisle. What has been put out there is that we need an accounting from Patreaus.

While Dick Cheney was sent to mollify the Saud's. (Which is why Condi is "toying" with the idea that Israel has to remove its checkpoints. BY DATE CERTAIN. Similar lists go to the PA. Who has no intention of recognizing them.

But this Bush has sailed so far away from reputable diplomacy, I think nothing else matters. Heck, he can impregnate Condi, and it won't add more scandal.

We've breached the levees on our Iraqi adventure. There's no great "solution" in sight. Because the stakes for a few; who can run terrorists, is that Iraq is wide open. And, for the "taking." Whose gonna slap the hand of the thief?

And, in the Mideast positioning your family and tribe is a major temptation for those who can reach the levers. Where in the past, the religious kooks worked the system better than the educated class.

Now, have I learned anything at all from anything that's happened so far? YES. And, the Israelis should hear about it! Instead of walls. The Kurds, not wanting the bad press that walls bring; have opted for ditches. Big fat deep cuts into the ground, going down the distance that a wall would go up.

Children can fall in here, you say? Of course. Just like they can fall down wells. Has happened. But the photo artistry is gone. And, half the "battles" we've seen have been done by photo-chopping reality into picture bits.

And, the House isn't the only place where there are fires erupting, now. Yes. It's Bush's mess. Not James Baker's mess. Though Baker has been an easy rider on the coattail of others.

That Rove got furious at Kirk? Add to Bush's woes that things are so on edge, now; the White House staff is losing their cool. Threatening what?

And, who did call Drudge with the latest?

Rove's been in politics long enough, he should know better.

And, Bush by now should have come up with something called "Plan #2."

Of course, you can have your faith! We live in a free country! But to those who think the dems are "perfidious" ... that's not what lots of American's are now thinking.

Bush is the idiot that put his faith in the House of Saud. I think its swell that he has no new kingdoms to offer those clowns.

Perhaps, we'll just have to wait for time to pass; before it becomes OBVIOUS that Bush did things that should never have been done. And, he did them thinking he didn't need the donks! He was gonna show them!

Well, now we can watch the reactions.

Posted by SoldiersMom | May 11, 2007 2:29 AM

December 7, 2008 -

Chilling article

http://www.therant.us/staff/kraft/10242006.htm

Posted by docjim505 | May 11, 2007 4:19 AM

This is unprecedented. When in our history has the Congress worked so diligently in the cause of American defeat and humiliation?

Lighwave mentions (May 10, 2007 08:59 PM) the "blue dogs" and laments that they haven't been as sensible / conservative on the war as people had hoped. Personally, I was always dubious about the alleged conservatism of this subset of the filthy dems. Aside from the combination of bribery and pressure that their leadership can bring to bear, THEY ARE DEMOCRATS! Why in the world would anybody expect or even hope that they would behave with a shred of patriotism or honor?

As for the bluedogs' fears of being booted out of office in '08, I'd say that there isn't that much for them to worry about. Quite aside from the fact that the reelection rate for members of Congress is already something like 98%, I'm sure that the dem leadership has assured them that plenty of cash in the form of pork and campaign funds will come their way if they do SanFran Nan's treasonous bidding. The opposite is also true: if they DON'T march in lockstep with the Benedict Arnolds, then they won't get a penny of appropriations and will have moveon.org lavishing cash on their primary opponents.

So, forget the blue dogs. If the country's going to be saved, it will have to be by the Republicans.

God help us.

Posted by Cybrludite [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 11, 2007 6:14 AM

Once again, I'm finding myself unable to comment on this due to a combination of Captain Ed's policy on swearing and not wanting to be on any more watch lists. Just assume that my response wouldn't look out of place over at Misha's blog...

Posted by BearOfNH | May 11, 2007 6:39 AM

> Maybe Saudi Arabia can lend us a dollar, or China?

Better idea: Have the DoD ask the Federal Reserve for a loan until Congress gets its act together. Several billion dollars secured by, say, various miltary lands around the country.

The Volokh wannabes will start to quote Article 1 Section 8 that it's Congress' job to raise an Army. But hey, Congress has abdicated other parts of that section as well ("regulate the value of ... foreign coin") and is patently abdicating its role here as well.

Posted by Captain Ed | May 11, 2007 6:47 AM

I don't have a policy on swearing, although I'm not a big fan of it. Watch lists are outside of my purview, though ... :-)

Posted by sam pender [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 11, 2007 7:04 AM

Um, I think if you go to the WH website and read the PDF of the President's plan as put forth in Jan, the benchmarks for success are actually HIS, and only the timelines are the Democrats'.

;-)

Posted by Cybrludite [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 11, 2007 7:36 AM

Trust me, Captain, were I to get going, you'd have a policy against swearing afterwards. And also likely a somewhat expanded vocabulary...

Posted by Fight4TheRight [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 11, 2007 8:16 AM

docjim505 said: " If the country's going to be saved, it will have to be by the Republicans "

I heartily agree. And what's the old saying? A Good Defense is a Good Offense?

Instead of the Republicans in Congress sitting back on their heels waiting for the next sham of a Supplemental Bill or the next investigation or the next spending hike bill, go on the offensive. Create chaos in their committees and on the floor by:

1. Finally getting off their duffs and bringing up Diane Feinstein's illegal activities regarding her husband's company to the Ethics committee, possibly having DofJ file criminal charges
2. Bring up charges against Pelosi and Ellison for violating The Logan Act
3. Bring up ethics charges against William Jefferson
4. Act to censor John Murtha's attacks on military commanders
5. Demand a recount of the vote that put Nancy Pelosi in as Speaker of the House
6. Censor Harry Reid for aiding and abetting the enemy during war
7. Call for an FBI investigation of George Soros' tampering with the World Bank
8. Bring Howard Dean in for committee questioning on the influence leveraged on the Governor of Kansas

Put the Dems on their heels! Fight fire, with fire. Show some bloody backbone!

Posted by Fight4TheRight [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 11, 2007 8:26 AM

One other suggestion for the Republicans to "fight back."

Since the MSM has the total ear of the Dems and feeds the country BS 90% of the time, the Republican leaders in Congress should approach one of the Leftist MSM outlets (not Fox as that would be asking for trouble)...perhaps ABC or NBC and in a private meeting, explain that the Republicans will be unveiling a controversial plan of upheaval in Congress.
They will then give that network an "exclusive" on each and every part of that plan and storyline.
In return, the chosen network will agree to air and print every single portion of the plan (see above blog entry). And finally, the chosen network will agree to run "opposing arguments" as to the progress of the Iraqi War.
Who knows...maybe CBS would be the best target, I'm sure if they would view these "exclusives" being presented by Katie Couric, a chance to bump their ratings up!

And the net results would be that FINALLY, a larger portion of the American Public will be presented with the Right side of the issues for once.

Posted by Bostonian | May 11, 2007 8:51 AM

I am having a hard time imagining the Democrats recovering from this. Their agenda is crystal clear now, and I do not believe it is what they ran on last fall. These are interesting times.

I hope that other commentators here are right and the troops will get the funding somehow. But it's gonna be ugly.

If I believed in a higher power, I'd be prayin'.