May 27, 2007

US Forces Free Dozens Of AQ Victims

US forces raided an al-Qaeda torture facility today in Baghdad, freeing 42 hostages. Some of them showed signs of torture and had to be immediately hospitalized:

U.S. forces raided an al-Qaida hide-out northeast of Baghdad on Sunday and freed 42 Iraqis imprisoned inside, including some who had been tortured and suffered broken bones, a senior U.S. military official said Sunday.

The raid was part of a 3-month-old security crackdown that included the deployment of 3,000 more U.S. troops to Diyala, a violent province north of the capital that has seen heavy fighting in recent weeks, said Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, the top U.S. military spokesman in

Caldwell said Iraqis told U.S. forces about the hide-out: "The people in Diyala are speaking up against al-Qaida."

Caldwell said the 42 freed Iraqis marked the largest number of captives ever found in a single al-Qaida prison.

At the same time, American forces raided Sadr City for the second straight day. They arrested a man suspected of routing Iranian weapons to insurgents, including the shaped charges that have increasingly been used to attack American patrols. This cell also sent people to Iran for training in insurgent warfare.

In the south, British troops served an arrest warrant on Mahdi Army elements. They opened fire on the British, who apparently expected trouble. While taking no casualties themselves, the British arrested four militants and killed three others.

Moqtada al-Sadr called again for the end of the occupation. However, with one of his key lieutenants dead and his network under pressure from both ends of the country, Sadr may decide to take another Iranian vacation soon. The Americans and the British have provided an answer to his demonstrations over the past week, underscoring their resolve to put an end to the militias, including the Mahdis.


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Comments (13)

Posted by DJ Elliott | May 27, 2007 11:28 AM

I do not think he has the option of running to Iran again. Cost too much on Tehran's investment the first time.

If he tries to run, he will become a Martyr to the cause and US/ISOF will be framed...

Posted by NahnCee [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 27, 2007 11:34 AM

Agree that retreating to Iran is probably not an option for Mookie. I wonder if Baby Assad is dumb enough to take him.

Posted by Carol Herman | May 27, 2007 1:06 PM

Oy, vey. There are so many more stink holes where this came from! And, the stakes couldn't be higher! Since the Iraqis never learned to stem the violence.

Wherever thugs control, you know this to be true. Even if millions hit the streets and wave flags around, that they want peace and/or democracy. And, they want the despots to hightail it out; it's not how the game gets played.

Where the media fosters the idea that we're the evil ones. And, the one thing the people WON'T DO, is get behind the American troops, here, in any meaningful way.

The arabs live in their tents. Waiting for the news to blow in on who one. ANd, then they'll support "whomever it is." Sometimes? People just don't know any better.

ANd, we're say too soft!

Today, at Drudge, there's a headline out of Baghdad, that American contractors, working for the State Depatment. Probably building the huge embassy. Got into a fire fight with Iraqi TROOPS! When a car got too close to their caravan and wouldn't stop, the Blackwater folks shot the driver, dead. And, a fire fight ensued.

Again, we'are applying kakamamie rules. Instead of the rules that you need when you're fighting a WAR! (Well, we're told "we're fighting a war." But it looks like diplomatic chicken shit to me.)

Basically, arabs KNOW that few despots can control a nation's wealth. And, dictate. Just like that giraffe, Assad.

It's interesting, too, how much hatred for the USA exists in those slime pockets.

Soldiers carry guns for a reason. They should fire on anything that moves in the street. Instead? The press is called in. And, we're made to look like we're "over-reacting" when a car, hurtling down the road at a convoy, gets stopped the "old fashioned way."

ANd, now? Bush is expecting a lot of paper work!

That's the American form of torture.

By the way, the contractors for Blackwater? They're the guys that saw four of their own hung from the bridge in Fallujah. Would have helped if he had gone in with bulldozers. And, the people of Fallujah would have seen it turned into a parking lot.

Instead? We're supposed to celebrate when these bribed morons follow their tribal leaders. So far? To the American loot machine.

Someday, soon, I hope we learn to talk tough. And, mean it.

Posted by salt1907 | May 27, 2007 2:35 PM

We need to spread the word that we are fighting and killing AQ in Iraq. The fight against AQ justifies the entire invasion. While these successes are tremendous, we must be on guard against a new tactic - female suicide bombers. We will see more female suicide bombers from the RoP. But those females who martyr themselves this way will be rewarded not with virgins, but with dwarfs. It is possible that dwarfs are the reward because the female suicide bombers will be children instead of adults.

Posted by Carol Herman | May 27, 2007 6:52 PM

Salt 1907:

Rosie O'Donnell is a virgin. IF these nitwits, who fly into pieces, think virgins are great; let them get 72 of her. I'd even pay for the cloning.

Iraq's a mess because Bush is a wuss.

If our soldiers USED THEIR AMMUNITION, when out on patrol; instead of watching our military devise "convoys" that can withstand the IED's ... We'd be in better shape. We're not.

The IED's are PROXY's. From the Saud's who have unlimited money to throw at their desired goal: SUNNI control. To Abner Dinnerjacket. Again, the money is stolen from the Iranians. Because once you give people religion; the only expense that goes up is black tablecloths. While what goes down? Education can be cut to smitereens.

On the other hand? If you were living under a black table cloth since 1979; the "win" you got to feel would be offset, by reality, by now. While we got rid of Jimmy Carter.

True, the Saud's make Jimmuh rich. But, so what? In Iran the mullahs are the thieves. And, the people are pushed backwards. To the point? Today, they think the Shah was better. Go figa.

Some people just need parades.

While the real enemies in the Mideast go back centuries. You want to improve their lots in life? With what invention?

Yes, I hope we keep fighting. Because we have to develop the stomach for it! Oh. And, we need a president who can actually "make the sale" to the American people. We've been smothered in bullshit for much too long, now.

Posted by Lightwave | May 27, 2007 9:12 PM

Eventually we're going to have to come to grips with the fact we're not just fighting AQ in Iraq. We're fighting Syria and Iran as well.

Until Syria and Iran are out of the picture, we're going to be in Iraq. This is a basic truth of the situation we're in.

Fighting with an eye towards troop reductions has not worked for the last four years. We have to fight with the goal of not only securing Iraq from terrorists and sectarian violence, but we must eliminate Iran and Syria's ability to enter the fray in Iraq as well.

There are those who say if we stay in Iraq, we'll ignite a regional war. This is already a regional war. If Bush's legacy is to include concrete progress in the war on terror, we have to seriously look at playing the Iran card. Time is running out. When they get the bomb, we all lose.

Posted by Publius Hamilton | May 27, 2007 9:19 PM

We are at war with Iran and their wholly owned subsidiary aka the Mahdi Army whether anyone wants to admit it or not. The Iranian mullahs rub our soldiers deaths in our faces and laugh at our "resolve" or lack thereof.

It's time to wake up and smell the hummus.

Posted by gaffo | May 27, 2007 9:53 PM

Carol - you can cry tears for a bunch of Mercenaries.

I'll use my crocodile tears on em. they get paid 5-times what a US Sodier gets and they work for companies that are all screwing the US government and US people via corruption and fraud.

Mercenaries - the lowest form of life on Earth.

welcome to the privitization and outsourcing of the American Armed Forces - thanks Republicans, great new world order you are building!

Posted by Carol Herman | May 27, 2007 10:14 PM

Hey, gaffo. I don't change minds. It's not my job.

And, everyone's welcome to read Drudge. He seems to know what to put at the top of his page. Every day.

While, IF it was up to me, I'd discard the tag "War on Terror." We ain't doing that. What we are doing? WHO THE HELL KNOWS?

We're there, in Irak, because Bush wanted to take out Saddam. Seems, as the Realtor to the Saud's; he's not about to earn a commission check any time soon.

While we've got on our hands, something in Baghdad, and other really poor Shi'a areas; is GANG VIOLENCE.

We're getting good at keeping this dreck within the parameters of their neighborhoods. So, I don't see us "out" of Irak all that fast.

And, say what you will about "mercenaries," they're about all we got on the ground that seems to be working "outside" the Green Zones. So, yeah. People who live in bad neighborhoods will spend their own coins on effective deterence. PRIVATE SECURITY FITS THE BILL.

Now, here in America? We had terror for about 400 years. A lot of good it did the American indians, huh? Nah. Not even worth visiting their stinking casinos. Funded mostly on drug cartel funds; with types from indonesia. So? There's always something for sale. When you live IN freedom. And, you're free to choose your vices.

What kind of a move was it to kill Saddam? Not what the CIA planned! While there's enough hot spots out there, now; it looks like we should call the stuff we do "calling the fire department."

You saw Lebanon, recently? Do you know America is the biggest "investa" in those palestinian camps. And, do you know WHY? Because Lebanon is just one country that DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE THE PUKES CITIZENSHIP.

So, we "train." We're currently "training" Abbas' forces in gazoo! Sure. I wonder "why?" But Dayton? He's just another GREASEBALL. Which was the name the Mossad gave to Tenet.

We got structural problelms. Nah. Why get surprised? Vietnam had consequences. Everything, acctually, has "consequences."

And, nothing's ever perfect.

As to the GOP's problems? Me thinks Bush will carry the "social conservatives" with him, down the toilet. Because they're the ones who will get the "blame" for picking this crap out in the first place.

Irak? Probably still better off without Saddam. While, for the future? We don't pick up troops from the "locals." We didn't when we fought the germans. We didn't when we fought the Japs.

Oh. And, we didn't win the Civil War, either; until Lincoln reached a point where the "border states" sensitivities gave way to Emancipation. And, we got there only by giving General Grant full reign. And, Sherman showed the south the costs involved with withdrawing from the CIVILIZED UNION.

Takes a long time to teach turkeys a good lesson

Bush was way too weak a man to ever be elected Commander In Chief. So the price gets paid, until we turn around and elect somebody else.

NO. Hillary does not "shatter the glass ceiling." Sorry. But gravity would give you a taste of such a thing. All that splintered glass in your food.

What a bunch of stink-o presidents! LBJ. Nixon. Carter. And, both Bushes. Yeah. I guess we're free to choose. But why so much crap?

Posted by Mwalimu Daudi | May 27, 2007 11:11 PM

Uh... Captain - didn't you get the memo? AQ is not in Iraq. Only insurgents. And torture only happens at Gitmo. This must be a neocon plot!

Posted by conservative democrat | May 27, 2007 11:17 PM

So I guess we can leave Iraq once we show those dirty arabs what a killing machine our army is. I'm sure shooting everything in sight will put the fear of God (Allah) in them. Look how well its worked so far.Forget about ever standing up an Iraqi Army, they'll always be more loyal to their local militias or the local cleric.Forget about the Kurds ever embracing a Shia dominated government, they've already signed oil exploration deals with Norway and Sweden, which is counter to the Iraqi Constitution. Yes the Sunni tribal leaders are killing AQ elements but some tribal leaders have said after AQ is eliminated they WILL STILL TRY TO BRING DOWN THE SHIA GOVERNMENT OF MALIKI.Iran is supporting Shia militias but other than nukes how do we destroy them? Were stretched as it is. When Shinseki said we needed 500,000 troops to control Iraq he wasn't talking out his arse, so much for Bush listening to his generals. Bush is a joke, a sick joke.

Posted by Lightwave | May 28, 2007 8:14 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about today's report that the US and Iran are officially at the table for the first time in almost 30 years.

I can honestly say that nothing useful will come from the talks. And notice Condi Rice isn't anywhere near the talks...that may actually be good.

But the bottom line is unless *both* sides want to move towards a compromise position, there's nothing to talk about. Iran has repeatedly said that its position is to A) gain nuclear technology and B) wipe Israel off the map.

Sanctions are not working. Iran doesn't care. Diplomacy is not working. Iran doesn't care. They are betting we won't take the military option because we are busy in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Unless we do, the result *will be a nuclear Iran*.

It's not a question of if we go to war with Iran, but when and how.

Posted by Carol Herman | May 28, 2007 1:29 PM

Nobody will ever say Dubya has a "way with words."

Because the "war" isn't exactly a war. It's more like a POLICE ACTION. Done to curb terrorism; where it "blossoms."

At least Bush got that one right! Better "there" than "here."

While we haven't quite gotten the hang of it, yet.

Part of the problem? When Americans see our armed forces rolling out, they want to KNOW it's doing its job. In Irak? Nah. For three weeks, ONLY; and then Tommy Franks left the theater.


Things were actually going well under General Casey. Till Dubya, who can't tell the difference between talent and a hemerhoid, grabbed Paul Bremer, and tossed him into Iraq. The dude didn't even speak arabic! And, he immediately went in; and without a regard to "WHAT ARMIES DO" ... he ordered all the ordinance in the hands of the iraqis to be turned over to individuals in their garages.

You're suprised terrorism broke out? How come?

The SAUDS FUND TERRORISM! And, they're just up to their old tricks.

Maliki? Interesting character. Lived for about ten years in Damascus, where the Shi'a are only in Assad's "alawite" family. Most of the people, living under the guns of goons, are sunni.

Turns out syria was a passageway for the terrorists to come and go at will.

And, nobody gave Paul Bremer a clue!

Turns out we're not so good at "designing wars" when all we have are CIA types. And, their "guess work."

But it's still a good lesson!

There's also something that we've got to learn, ahead; the same way the Los Angeles Police Department had to "learn" to deal with gangs. Can't just go in and clean out these rat's nests, ya know.

Why? Because lawyers structure it so that the gangs get a "fair fight." And, beating up on gang members isn't allowed. For a period of time this happened because the citizens inside the gang zones, kept blaming the police.

Nope. They're no longer blaming the police.

But the police GOT SMARTER!

When our press interviews our soldiers in Irak, I know they're not getting the full story. (They're getting the parts where we train Iraqis; only to seem them either run away from fire fights, or worse. They pick up their equipment AND THEY SHOOT AT THE AMERICANS.)

Bush has way too many friends in the House of Saud. (But even the House of Saud, these days, ain't exactly happy.)

How will we fight these long term INFESTATIONS? My guess is that we're gonna have to train soldiers the way we train the police. (And, yes. The police who service the gang infested areas in the USA ... except for Oklahoma. Are very well trained, indeed.)

Among the police, themselves? Lots of good spirit exists. It's part of the calling. Part of the reasons why men compete to wear police uniforms.

Iraq? Handicapped because our soldiers don't speak the native lanugage. (When we were fighting Indians, it wasn't uncommon for some of our guys out West, to talk the talk. Or whoop the whoop.)

Over the long haul? Things will get better.

The worst turn, though, that Iraq took, was the one into the miasma of religion. They didn't need this. But Bush let it stand.

General MacArthur, on the other hand, was very pro-active with the Japanese Constitution. Seeing that the bozo leadership couldn't draw one up; he sat down with a yellow pad. And, the Japanese Constitution came out fine.

There are enough problem, now, worth discussing. Because they'll come back to haunt Bush. From his fake praises to the religion of peace; to all the other bullshit.

Bush will prove you can't fight wars with bullshit.

And, it pays to elected a man to office who can write his own speeches. And, then deliver them. But it makes no sense, yet, crying over this spilt milk.

Like it or not, just as our cities have gangs. And, the gangs do business in drugs and selling flesh; if not "protection." The same holds true for all the shit holes in the world. Problem's not gonna just up and disappear.

But "wars" aren't what you have when you're containing gang land, either. The right words to fit the descriptions will come when the boob in the White House leaves office.