June 7, 2007

Immigration Cloture Fails

The Senate's immigration-reform coalition took a big hit a few moments ago. The upper chamber refused cloture on the comprehensive reform bill, meaning that unlimited debate will continue for the foreseeable future. The motion asked to limit the debate to 30 more hours, which would have produced a vote early next week at the latest.

This puts Harry Reid in a tough spot. He originally said that he would take immigration off the calendar if it could not be resolved by Monday. He now has to ask for another cloture vote, which would have to take place tomorrow at the earliest -- and given that only 33 people voted to end debate, he has an almost insurmountable obstacle to success.

I think the immigration bill just died. More in a moment.

UPDATE: All of the Republican caucus voted to block the bill, and got 15 Democrats and Vermont's Independent Bernie Sanders to go along with them. Those included Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Barbara Boxer, and more. This is a stiff loss for the coalition.

UPDATE II: Harry Reid backed down from his previous hard-line approach and said he would give the bill more time:

Still, the measure — a top priority for President Bush that's under attack from the right and left — got a reprieve when Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., said he would give it more time before yanking the bill and moving on to other matters.

"We need to complete this marathon," Reid said.

His decision set the stage for yet another procedural vote later Thursday that will measure lawmakers' appetite for a so-called "grand bargain" between liberals and conservatives on immigration.

I figured he would do that. We'll see whether he can reverse the Dorgan amendment that has put a stake in the heart of the bill.


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Comments (21)

Posted by burt | June 7, 2007 11:19 AM

HOORAY. I think our friend Graham was leveraging himself into changing into the majority party. This probably will fail and hopefully he will lose the next Republican primary.

Posted by Rovin | June 7, 2007 11:23 AM

Mr. Reid also said it was important to pass this bill so we (the senate) could bring up the critical non-binding no confidence bill on "Antonio Gonzales"---------yes you read that right----Reid thinks the AG's first name is Antonio, and he wants to show his lack of confidence?

Posted by Bill Faith | June 7, 2007 11:39 AM

Dirty Harry didn't follow through on what he said he was going to do? I'm shocked. Shocked! It's time for the shamnesty bill to die, and some political careers with it. I added a link o my 2006.06.07 "No Illegal Left Behind" Roundup.

Posted by RG | June 7, 2007 11:52 AM

So far, so good but it's not dead yet!

It's clear the American people want first to stop the flood across our southern border. It's what our elites don't really want to address or actually do. They, along with their cohorts in Mexico City have a plan to send 30-40 million more "hard working" amigos into our nation and thus turn it into "North Latin America". That's the end-game. Will they succeed?

Look, I'm all for helping Mexico economically (don't we already?) but I am 100% against letting half of Mexico come here and believe me, according to Gallup, almost half of Mexico's population wants to "migrate" here. Why am I so against it? Culture matters my friend, culture matters.

If we let them all come here, we won't be "we" anymore.

Keep calling the Senate monkeys!

Posted by Cousin Dave | June 7, 2007 11:58 AM

Wow. When was the last time Bernie Sanders voted with the Republicans on anything? Strange days.

Posted by Carol Herman | June 7, 2007 12:22 PM

In politics. You have strength in your coattails. Or you don't.

And, we can renew the old expression here: TED KENNEDY CAN'T PULL "EM OUT OF DA WATER."

No. I'm not surprised.

Today's cartoon by Chris Muir UNDERLINES IN BOLD how the media lies!

Thank goodness for the Internet.

AND, for Drudge's radio show on Sunday nites. He flagged this one! And, then he ran the headline that "congress was saying the phone calls died down." And, most people "accepted" Ted Kennedy, AND the views of the bozo in the White House.


There seems, however, to be NO SOUNDS when we get the lies. Except for the Internet.

The other big kahuna out there is:

A SIDE SHOW WITH ABBAS ASKING ISRAEL FOR GUNS. WHILE Bush, the Realtor for the Saud's, is allowing James Baker to broker the sale of America's most sophisticated missiles to Riyadh. Pathetic. Bush should be impeached over this crap;

Meanwhile? All he did was start something in Irak he's not equipped to finish.

With the bright spot being how Guiliani takes up the challenge. While, if we're lucky, he ends up running the Saudi's into the ground. They made the worst bets!

And, for a clue; "terrorism" isn't the same as fighting armies. It's NOT WW2, here! It's WILD INDIANS. And, America can lay claim to dealing with indians and pirates; because we did. Straight out of the box.

You mean there was no Tonto? NO! There were lots of good guys. But the bad guys built the reputation that took the American Indians down the path to ruin. Sure. They played against us with both the french and the british. So what? In the end they couldn't choose much. (And, when a whole tribe wanted to join Georgia; when Georgia applied to become a state, do you know what happened? The people in Georgia didn't want a component of Indians.

We're always going back to square one.

But on square one we're given choices. All the terrorists have is money. And, these crazy rules. IF they pass? THEN we're in trouble.

But the lying media has to deal with the Internet. 24/7.

Posted by Gary | June 7, 2007 12:40 PM

Just called Sen. Lugar's office and they had no idea why he voted "Nay" on the Coburn amendment early this morning regarding enforcing all immigration laws on the books now. He said they had not sen Jugar all day nor been briefed on why he has been voting on such amendments. HA!

The guy sounded really stressed and said they have been unindated w/ calls. Sen. Lugar is a fence rider, so if you live in Indiana, call D.C. office number (202)224-4814

Posted by Dave | June 7, 2007 12:49 PM

The Black Caucus put the stake in this....

They shot it down and asked why companies, contractors and small employers could not pay a living wage to non-college attending youths, and young adults who could perform jobs like building houses, repairing cars, laying concrete, and work on farms!

Good for them.

Whatever happened to apprentice programs?

I'm more than glad to pay a little higher prices at the cash register and have American , tax paying youths and young adults do the work for a living wage than pay illegals do the manual skilled labor.

What I may save at the cash register will be minor compared to what I will be forced to pay in higher taxes to support the unemployed/underemployed Americans
and the 2.5 trillion dollars The Heritgage Foundation cites as the cost to support the immigrant part of the equation.

Fix our society first... Seal the border. Enforce the regulations on the employers, and hire our American citizens.....

Get the young adults trained in the skilled trades, let them work, pay taxes and own their own property. Damn cheaper than the immigration reform bill and much better for society.... PERIOD....

American will do the jobs illegals do. Train American who are not going to college and pay a reasonable wage. It sure beats draining my paycheck with taxes to supplement illegals and supplement the under employed.

Onve we have less than 5% unemploment across the board in all racial and economic classes we can worry about targeting work visas.

Posted by Mike M. | June 7, 2007 1:03 PM

Fix our society first... Seal the border.

Amen brother, amen!

Ironically, sealing the border airtight would not only allow us to begin addressing some of the systemic problems that have been developing here, but it would even be the best way to truly fix the problems in Mexico as well!

They could finally have a much needed French Revolution down there, and the ten or twelve (predominantly light-skinned European) oligarchs that control everything in the country would be forced to share some of the wealth and start educating their own people, rather than allowing America to be their combination pressure valve/dumping ground.

It's disgraceful frankly to have such a failed and dysfunctional state right next to our own. It doesn't have to be the case.

Posted by RG | June 7, 2007 1:39 PM

It's all about being an adult folks - limits. Quietly some writers and pundits are coming out speaking truth to this issue. It's not just about illegal immigration its about the seminal decision: immigration. How many and from where? And do we as a sovereign nation have the right to decide? I say of course we do, just like every other nation does.

That makes many a liberal (neocon)republican wince but that's the true crux of the issue. Don't believe me?

See this column today. I urge you to read it.


Posted by bob | June 7, 2007 1:42 PM

Did anyone notice who abstained from the cloture vote?

Wait for it....here it comes......

McCain! Isn't this his bill?

Along with Kerry and some other no-name Senator.

Posted by JD | June 7, 2007 1:45 PM

Mike M.

You hit it dead center there. Maybe next time they'll hang em instead of letting em take power again after a decade or so. Mexico has to fix itself, we can't do it for them by becoming their economic daycare center.

Mexico should be a top tier nation economically. Instead it's a snake pit of corruption and class warfare. No, us nasty gringos didn't do it to them, they did it to themselves and only they can fix it.

Close the border and force them to fix their problems. As a side note for all those North American Union types well we can visit that issue once Mexico is an actual nation instead of a border line basket case.

Posted by patrick neid | June 7, 2007 2:13 PM

i don't think the bill is dead yet. leaving the bill open for debate is as it should be.

there are many things to like about this bill if all the loopholes are closed. senator sessions objections are a good summary. combine that with first closing the border from stem to stern and i think we would have a workable solution.

to find out if there is a bill possible we need to have the bill open to debate.

it goes without saying if border enforcement is not the first priority this bill can't die fast enough.

Posted by doriangrey | June 7, 2007 2:22 PM

Fax your congress-critter and tell them Just say no.....


Posted by flenser | June 7, 2007 2:28 PM

"it goes without saying if border enforcement is not the first priority this bill can't die fast enough."

If border enforcement were the first priority this bill would not even exist. Hard to believe there are still people in denial on this point. There will be zero enforcement until our rulers understand that we are fed up with the lack of enforcement. And care, of course. I think at present they do understand but see no reason to care.

Posted by Maverick Muse | June 7, 2007 3:21 PM

Dave, bravo! REALLY close the border.

National security is our #1 concern.

Employment of our CITIZENS is our "other" #1 concern.

Senatorial and Congressional whining and balking has reached the point where TOO MANY officials have absolutely no regard for the rule of law which THEY above all others are to be bound. Those officials pushing illegals into our country have no regard for citizens! We are not the fools that they would have us be.

We have no allegiance from our Justice system that has ruined immigration law by impeding enforcement with rulings from those whose decisions make absolutely no difference in their own insulated life other than providing themselves with a psychological feel-good. They exact charity for the illegals at the expense of the American worker's livelihood. The vast majority of American citizens bear the brunt for liberal justice wherein all is lost in ensuing chaos and limitations that again has no adverse affect on those living the insulated lifestyle with absolutely nothing to lose and all the more to gain by throwing weight against the huge population of working citizens. More is left up for grabs, just like during the Great Depression of the 1930's.

"Go west, young man, go west" is not an option when your surroundings no longer avail your means to success, i.e. no EMPLOYMENT and no protection under the law. There is no where else to go, so stick to your guns, figuratively speaking. Stand your ground, whatever town or state is yours.

CALL YOUR OFFICIALS REPEATEDLY and make them listen to you! Their conniving contrivances are multiple as they play the shell game with us. "We won't vote on that again" becomes "We will vote on that again [and again until we get the vote we want]."

WE CITIZENS MATTER, whether power brokers like it or not. We WILL be heard above illegal aliens. We will call again and again until we get the vote WE want.

Posted by Wanda | June 7, 2007 3:45 PM

Use the Pro-Amnesty hotline. Don't cost you a dime. 1-800-417-7666. After the propaganda you have the option to choose your senators. Call, call, call, free.

Posted by onlineanalyst | June 7, 2007 5:59 PM

I had seen that Pro-Amnesty Hotline number posted at freerepublic last week, Wanda. Apparently it puts callers in touch with senators' offices expeditiously while callers who use the typical channels cannot get through. What bothers me is that those using the PAH may automatically be counted as being for the bill.

Another issue that must be addressed is the oligarchy of the old bulls in the Senate, like Kennedy and Specter, who have a lot of power in creating back-room bills and mocking those who object to their unchecked usurpation of power. Their shenanigans in blocking the common-sense Coburn bill that disallowed felons and visa abusers who disappeared in order to avoid deportation is a mockery of the rule of law.

It's time to clean out the Senate of those who fail to honor their Constitutional obligation to our nation and its people.

Posted by Colonel Steve | June 7, 2007 6:01 PM

"All of the Republican caucus voted to block the bill..." All that voted, anyway. 'cept 'ol John "abstaining" McCain. Of course, who's surprised?

Posted by harleycon5 | June 7, 2007 6:56 PM

Today I called "Lew Latto Live" (a fine local radio program, with a great Moderate comentator) due to the fact he had spoken with callers who said "nothing can be done" and that fixing our immigration was "all but impossible". I reminded Lew and his listeners of the large red sign on Ronald Reagan's desk, which simply said "It CAN be done". Our efforts of patriotism and logical duty to our Democratic Republic ARE paying off.

Had we sat idly paralyzed by apathy, our out of touch Senators would be voting on the Bill right now. We are the voice of the people, because in the end WE ARE THE PEOPLE.

Remember friends, that it can be done...

Posted by AC | June 7, 2007 7:36 PM

is the bill going to pass or not?