July 4, 2007

Leave Him Alone

I understand the impulse to treat politics as a bloodsport, but even those who prefer that mode should really limit their attacks to the combatants. Today's story about the arrest of Al Gore III provides a case in point:

The 24-year-old son of former Vice President Al Gore was arrested for drug possession on Wednesday after he was stopped for speeding in his hybrid Toyota Prius, a sheriff's official said.

Al Gore III -- whose father is a leading advocate of policies to fight global warming -- was driving his environmentally friendly car at about 100 miles per hour on a freeway south of Los Angeles when he was pulled over by an Orange County sheriff's deputy at about 2:15 a.m.

The deputy smelled marijuana and searched the car, said sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino. The search turned up a small amount of marijuana, along with prescription drugs including Valium, Xanax, Vicodin, Adderall and Soma. There were no prescriptions found, he said.

I know that some bloggers are having fun with this, and I don't mean to be too critical of my friends, but it's at the same level as the attacks on Jenna and Barbara Bush. We may dislike Al Gore's policies and sanctimony, but that shouldn't apply to his son. His misfortunes tell us nothing about his father's policy or sanctimony, and as an adult, Al III answers for himself. Attacking Gore through his son amounts to a cheap shot.

To the extent that the younger Gore broke the law and endangered people, he should be prosecuted and punished in accordance with the law and precedent of California. Let the folks in California deal with it. Mocking the Gores has little to do with any substantive victory but merely personal attacks that do nothing to advance a political cause.

Note: I exchanged some snarky schadenfreude-laden quips with a longtime reader about this earlier today, so I am also scolding myself in this instance, too.

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Comments (81)

Posted by docjim505 | July 4, 2007 9:22 PM

You're quite right. It was wrong for people to pick on Chelsea, it is wrong for people to pick on the Bush twins, and it is wrong for people to pick on Gore III.

Leave the wives and kids out unless and until they get into the game, and then they can take their hits like everybody else.

Posted by cynical joe | July 4, 2007 9:33 PM

Wow, who knew a Prius could do 100mph!! Al III might do more for sustainability than his dad. I'm definitely going to check out the Prius.

Posted by richard_223 | July 4, 2007 9:33 PM

A Prius can go 100 mph? I'm impressed!

Mr. Gore has a history of similar arrests. I pray he gets the help he needs before he harms himself or someone else.

Posted by largebill | July 4, 2007 9:34 PM

I wouldn't want my dad judged based on the mistakes I've made and I'm sure in time I won't want to be judged by the foolish things my kids are sure to do.

Having said that, who would have ever thought a Prius could go 100 MPH.

Posted by kg2v | July 4, 2007 9:39 PM

Yes - I hope he gets the help he needs

RE The Prius - must have ordered the extra rubber band

Posted by stackja1945 [TypeKey Profile Page] | July 4, 2007 9:41 PM

HST said If you can't stand heat get out of the kitchen. Parents are responsible for their children's attitudes. Gore is known to bend rules for his politics. Gore III bending rules for his driving.

Posted by Bennett | July 4, 2007 9:42 PM

I found this reporting unintentionally amusing. I can't see how what kind of car the kid was driving is at all relevant to the news of his arrest. It was just a way to get an Al Gore, friend of the earth reference in.

I would have to think it is unbelievably hard to grow up as the child of a public figure. And if I remember correctly, this kid was in a severe car accident some years ago and almost died. There may be residual pain issues from that which might explain the medications he had. Don't know that, so just speculation.

But yeah, everyone should keep their mouths off the kid. And my sympathies to his parents who from everything I could ever tell have always taken that role very seriously.

Posted by Mike | July 4, 2007 9:51 PM

While this little--and I do mean little--story is brimming with irony, it is indeed meaningless in the vast political universe. One can make all manner of inferences and suppositions, but one fact remains: those who take pleasure in the misfortune of others are poor human beings.

Posted by Paul Milenkovic | July 4, 2007 10:00 PM

Son, you're going to drive me to drinkin' the way you drive that hot . . . rod . . . Prius!

Posted by Dishman [TypeKey Profile Page] | July 4, 2007 10:15 PM

As far as Al goes, I'd mostly agree.

Tipper is another matter. She made rather a show some years ago about the raising of children.

Posted by redherkey | July 4, 2007 10:25 PM

Is "yet-another-plea-bargain for community service" really in the best interest of this young, irresponsible man who was unfortunately born to worthless parents of too much affluence? He'll be dead in 10 years.

As the witty and brilliant Senator Clinton from New York has often said, "It takes a village" to raise such children who lack basic role models. We all are responsible for showing Al Jr. the tough love he should have been shown by a competent father years ago. Lacking any comprehension of cause and effect, partially due to having a father who disregards statistical data providing clear correlation between solar output and global warming, Al Jr. is trapped between extreme denial and self-destructive, nihlistic behaviours.

Our "village" needs to step up for young Al. No more probation and community service. Let him experience the outcome of the less affluent. 36 months (with 12-15 months under good behavior), a life-long felony conviction for the prescription drug possession consistent with the demands of the Rush Limbaugh haters, and we might just see a useful human being in time.


Posted by canadian.infidel | July 4, 2007 10:25 PM

``We may dislike Al Gore's policies and sanctimony, but that shouldn't apply to his son.`

While I agree in principle, you are a product of your environment. And for that I feel for Gore III, having an absolute buffoon for a father can`t help but have rubbed off on him a bit. I hope he`s able to over come the handicap of his dad.

Posted by cirby | July 4, 2007 10:26 PM

I'm not ragging on the kid for getting caught driving really fast, while on (and with) illicit substances. I've had way to many "interesting" friends to rag on him for that.

But the Prius... man, you just can't let that one go.

Everyone knows that, if you're planning on driving at high speeds in California with a car full of drugs, it's supposed to be a convertible Cadillac.

Preferably with a Samoan riding shotgun.

Posted by jr565 | July 4, 2007 10:30 PM

Though he's driving around at 100mph and taking various illicit drugs (perhaps while driving?), I'm glad he's at least driving like a maniac responsibly by using the Prius.

Because imagine if he was driving like a maniac in a gas guzzler? At least he's thinking of the environment.

Posted by Karen | July 4, 2007 10:32 PM

I find it amusing that more people are impressed by the hybrid going 100 MPH than worrying about Gore's kid. In the current climate out in California, if our dear lady Paris Hilton does time for her DUI and she was on some sort of probation, I don't see how Gore's kid is going to wiggle out of this one without jail time. However, it sounds like he desperately needs rehab. I hope he gets the help he needs. It must truly suck to be raised in a fishbowl. I am glad my parents were typical, unremarkable, wonderful Midwest nobodies. It made my childhood very uncomplicated.

Posted by Mwalimu Daudi | July 4, 2007 10:58 PM

Captain Ed, I disagree somewhat with your post. The MSM and their Democrat pets have made attacks on non-combatants part of their standard operating procedure. Recall the smears aimed at Fred Thompson's wife, President Bush's daughters, Nancy Reagan, Pat Nixon, George Allen's mother, and Richard Cheney's lesbian daughter, just to name a few.

Without going after Gore's son, I think that now is the time to point out how Democrats and the MSM have degraded politics by attacking the families of GOP politicians.

Posted by Steffan | July 4, 2007 10:59 PM

I'm in California.... and this is going to get a lot of attention, especially after Paris Hilton's DUI arrest.

I like the reference they made to his "environmentally-friendly" ride. :)

Either Popular Mechanics or Mechanix Illustrated ran a story a few years ago about building your own hybrid with a Chevy Vega, a deep-draw battery pack, a heavy-duty electric motor, and a Kubota diesel generator. I don't think it was supposed to go 100 mph, but they *did* claim 250+ mpg....

Posted by hunter | July 4, 2007 10:59 PM

I can only hope AGII will stop projecting his feelings onto the entire planet and focus his ego on the reality that he has a screwed up kid in AGIII and deal with that.

Posted by nerdbert | July 4, 2007 11:02 PM

"Parents are responsible for their children's attitudes. "

It's obvious you don't have grown kids. You might have some input into your kids' attitudes, but there are many who fall far from the tree, especially as they get older.

Nicely said, Cap'n. Jr. may be a sanctimonious, two faced so-and-so, but AG3's actions are beyond his control and frankly this is one time I feel some sympathy for him.

But I'm not too surprised a Prius can do 100. I am surprised that there was an LA freeway long enough and without any traffic on it for him to get there, though.

Posted by Swede | July 4, 2007 11:08 PM

I couldn't agree more.
I hope this young man takes this opportunity to change the course he's on and not make the same mistake twice. Good luck to him and to all families.

Posted by Nick Saakvitne | July 4, 2007 11:15 PM

Well said Captain.

As Tony S. put it, we don't do families.

Happy Fourth (and I hope A-III gets his life together). We in California don't need any more media frenzies.

nickess

Posted by StepNo3 | July 4, 2007 11:21 PM

Politics aside, the youth and family have been down this road before. As myself in recovery, a dad and a credentialed drug and alcoholism counselor, full attention should have been given to this problem back when it first became apparent- especially considering the boy's health, life, the lives of others and lastly the family's celebrity plus Gore's personal creditability. Denial in personal areas translates to denial in others.

Posted by lgude | July 4, 2007 11:30 PM

The Prius is irresistible even to the media against one of their own favorites. I think it the small village gossip in us all writ large by the mass media. It is TOO juicy not to report. It was Jung who commented on the promiscuity of preacher's kids - he was one himself and a bit of a lad like a former president I could name - and made the larger point that kids often act out the darker impulses of their parents. That said, I completely agree we - the media, bloggers - do ourselves no good by indulging our schadenfreude. I have children and grandchildren and was once young and foolish too.

Posted by bayam | July 4, 2007 11:32 PM

Who the hell would drive 100mph in a Prius? Do you still get the same mileage?

Funny thing is, Al Jr. may have problems, the Bush girls can't be taken seriously, and look at Chelsea. Who are the better parents?

Posted by Scrapiron | July 4, 2007 11:40 PM

The fact he is a druggie and drunk is not the point. Why is he a druggie and drunk when brought up with all the advantages is the point? Could it be that he knows his father is a liar and a fake and can't live with that fact.? Doesn't matter, he's too far gone to help since no one can help a druggie and drunk but themselves and it's evident he doesn't want to live. He'll soon be dead of an overdose or suicide. Al Gor-abge will have to live with that and I doubt he really cares about anything but his own ego.

Posted by Doug | July 5, 2007 12:07 AM

Didn't know he had a son. I actually like Tipper, but I don't care much about Al.

Posted by Nikue | July 5, 2007 12:08 AM

As a socialist and far left liberal I am constantly impressed by Captain Ed's singleminded interest in the issues at hand. Personal and family problems should never be counted against a candidate whether they be Bill Clinton or Rudy Giuliani. Let's have a decisive battle, but let it be about health care and not the rancorous divorces or a couple of blow jobs.

Posted by Rhymes With Right | July 5, 2007 12:10 AM

However, given Al Gore III's repeated issues with drug abuse (kicked out of his ritzy prep school, busted for an incident and sent to rehab in 2004, and now this one), I think it is fair to ask what, if anything, the family is doing to help this young man. I don't think it is unfair to suggest that Gore's priority needs to be saving his son, not saving the globe.

Posted by NahnCee | July 5, 2007 12:20 AM

If we hold the Columbine killers' parents responsible for their actions;

and if we hold the 9/11 hijackers' parents responsible for their actions;

and if we hold Lindsey/Brittany/Paris' parental units responsible for their actions ...

then why does Al Gore get a pass?

Posted by Ken Hahn | July 5, 2007 1:11 AM

As a resident of Orange County, I would much prefer young Al did his reckless driving elsewhere. If he must endanger lives, at least do it in Santa Monica or Berkeley.

Posted by Carol Herman | July 5, 2007 1:22 AM

Sorry, Ed. This kid's a repeat offender. He was caught speeding, before. And, no, I don't believe it's news that ought to be buried; because it deals with someone from a political family.

Ah, I said "kid." But at 24, we're past kiddling stage.

And, it's obvious, too, that the Gore's have "issues."

Oh, it's not the speeding car, per se. Itls the stupidity of seeing your progeny hanging out with dopers. Given that this boob has always been surrounded by law enforcement; this "wide open" behavior; so a cop could just smell the stuff; must have meant it was OVERPOWERING. And, again, Gore got caught.

At least we know the cops weren't so intimidated that they would have been afraid to jail Algore's son, once they saw the license. You bet, there were times famous political figures had the kind of clout that could damage a cop, and put him out walking the graveyard shift; following the arrest of "an important figa."

I actually thought that yesterday, too. When I read about Elton John's tantrum. You can be sure, the bobby, who stopped Elton's car for security reasons; because ... by the way he was following orders. Also, today, could be punished by re-assignment.

That's where I'd put my concerns. That's when the journalists flee.

Now, at 24, is Algore's kid still on an allowance? The very rich, sometimes, don't even know what they're doing to spoil their children, rotten.

While we've got 24 year old's in harms way; doing the right thing for all of us. In Irak. And, Afghanistan.

Posted by JEM | July 5, 2007 1:45 AM

I had a Prius up to 90 or so, they don't have much straight-line stability at any speed but it did okay.

As for Gore fils, if he gets what the rest of us would get under such circumstances, then fine, hands off. If he walks away with 20 hours of community service and a substance-abuse workshop for a repeat offense then the gloves ought to come off in finding out why.

Posted by The Yell | July 5, 2007 2:30 AM

He may well walk, I can't see a CA jury believing a Prius could do 100mph in Orange County. He must have sounded like a Corsair leaving the carrier BWAAAAAAAAAAHH

Just doing my civic duty as a Californian citizen, noting how our statutes get enforced.

Posted by Ginny in CO | July 5, 2007 2:49 AM

Thanks for heading this off quickly.

Parenting has no guarantees. My son was a senior in a high school the same district as Columbine in '99. He had wrestled there, was often in the library in his letter jacket and cap. He played the same video games as the gunmen, listened to the same music and had once written an essay for a school assignment about blowing up the teachers cars with an Uzi. The gun cabinet was hidden in his closet.

I was quite aware that long night that my own son could have been a victim or a perpetrator. Kids go through a lot of changes in the brain during that time, we still don't know for sure if they are why schizophrenia and other psychiatric disorders emerge then. Ever since I have been apalled at the way the parents were treated. Total strangers had to put their own judgement and sentence on top of the horror the parents lives had become.

The other side of this issue is the people who look at what politicians - of any party - have to go through, and put their families through, to pursue an elected office and hold it. I firmly believe that we could attract better candidates to run if we were not so stupid about the way we treat them. I think the deference they receive is unnecessary, the trashing and bashing cruel. Holding them to doing their jobs in a constuctive and firm way is reasonable. It isn't necessary to load it down with the rest of the garbage. Just keeps the pool of potential candidates limited to people who are willing to put up with the unnecessary stress.

Being civil and even courteous could make a positive difference. It couldn't hurt.

Posted by a54 | July 5, 2007 3:23 AM

Looks like Al is going to have to buy some crime offset credits.

Posted by Clyde | July 5, 2007 3:29 AM

100 mph in a Prius! Awesome! I can tell that it will soon be the car chase vehicle of choice in California. I look forward to watching Prius car chases on Fox News in the very near future!

I find the Goracle to be tendentious and hypocritical, but I hope his son gets the help that he so obviously needs.

Posted by vilmar | July 5, 2007 4:43 AM

Couldn't disagreee more, Cap'n.

I'll stop criticizing Al Gore's son (and any child of any liberal hypocrite) when those self-same liberal hypocrites and the media stop going after the children of conservatives/republicans.

It's time to take the gloves off and stow that "take the higher road" or "turn the other cheek" nonsense.

Posted by Lance | July 5, 2007 4:48 AM

I'm with you 100% on this one Ed. That poor kid has Big Al as his daddy. He deserves a break. A big break.

Posted by MICHAEL DOOLEY | July 5, 2007 5:46 AM

As a father, I have to give Al Gore a break on this one. Being a parent has been the most humiliating experience of my life. All three of my children have gone "off course" for a couple of years in their lives. While each cleaned themselves up afterward, I felt it was touch and go there for a long time. Meanwhile, my children and their friends thought it was their perfect right to "go crazy" before they assumed the weight of adulthood. Putting up with it was "my job". (!!!) I have the least room to throw stones. Leave this one alone.

Posted by sanssoucy | July 5, 2007 6:08 AM

Yeeeeeaaaah, conservatives should be quick to cut Jr. Gore some slack, because we all know that liberals would similarly just let it go if, say, one of President Bush's daughters were to ...

Yeah. Uh-huh. Gotcha.

SS

Posted by Continuum | July 5, 2007 6:35 AM

The "out for blood" neocons on this board still don't get it.

Most ordinary Americans can easily relate to knowing someone's child who has gotten drunk, speeded, and been involved with drugs. Maybe, not their own kid, but they know someone.

In this case, they have sympathy and not scorn. Many know their own kids have done some pretty stupid things.

In any case, if Gore III does any jail time, it will be in stark contrast to the "no jail time" for the Scooter.

Easy contrast to see.

Rich white, country-club FOB Republican gets off with no jail time, while a Democrat's kid actually pays for his crime.

The neocons should pray that the kid walks free. Otherwise, come election time, the Dems will emphasize that they accept responsibility fo their crimes while Bush's friends skate away.

I wouldn't put it past the Dems to have purposely arranged for this arrest,on this particular day, in order to further highlight Scooter's scoot to freedom.

Posted by Monique | July 5, 2007 6:58 AM

Continuum:

If, as you suggest, the Democrats planned this as an attack on Scooter Libby's freedom, then they should rightfully be excoriated for such behavior. To use a non-combatant as fodder in such a manner goes well beyond the Pale. No, I am quite sure that he did this on his own and just got caught.

Posted by JoeS | July 5, 2007 7:01 AM

There is no comparison between Jenna trying to buy a beer with dinner and this repeat offender with a supply of "prescription" drugs driving 100.

How many people have to be killed by DUI before we take serious action.

Posted by patrick neid | July 5, 2007 7:07 AM

"His misfortunes tell us nothing about his father's policy or sanctimony"

are you sure?

first, to be upfront, i have no children. that said i live in a world surrounded by everyone else's, for better or worse--mostly better to be sure. however there lies the chicken or the egg quandary. at what point are a parent's choices reflected in the behavior of their children. are one parent homes as good? do drunken parents raise good kids? do extreme left wing or right wing folks raise balanced kids? do most illiterate parents have college bound offspring? does a politician that is married to SS spouse escape scrutiny for good decision making? how about violence, drugs, insanity, bigotry, obsessive career mindedness, kids dumped off on nannies, i could go on all day.

you get my drift. i'm not sure parents should get a pass on all these matters. it cannot but reflect on them for better or worse. parents certainly want applause when they put that bumper sticker on display about the honor roll.

because i "know" al gore through his speeches, writings, tv appearances etc i don't find it surprising that one of his offspring is off the tracks. hell, he drives me insane and i get to change the channel. his personal demons have to have had an impact.

Posted by MarkD | July 5, 2007 7:14 AM

When People magazine became the model for news reporting, this was inevitable. Too bad, but the publicity goes with the territory these days. I'm just glad I'm not famous and have not had issues with my kids - something I will not claim any credit for. I'll thank the supreme being, my kids, and my wife for that.

The comparison with Libby is pretty lame - I'd compare him with Sandy Burger... How about comparing this with the treatment of Teddy or even Patrick Kennedy? Oh, wait, they walked because they were in Congress. I'm sure there are Republicans as well.

Posted by Captain Ed | July 5, 2007 7:23 AM

Patrick,

Adults are responsible for themselves. AG3 is 24. What are AG2 and Tipper supposed to do to stop him? When you were 24, were your parents somehow responsible for your actions? I think not.

MarkD,

Patrick Kennedy is a politician and criticism comes with the territory. AG3 is not, and should be left alone, except by the justice system in California.

Posted by chuckster | July 5, 2007 7:25 AM

Well...we all saw what happened to Paris Hilton,didn't we?

This guy has a history of drug abuse.
We will now see if JUSTICE really is blind.

I say it isn't and Al III will walk again!

Posted by furious | July 5, 2007 7:30 AM

California jury? SoCal prosecutors? Unless OC has better DA and jury pool material than LA County, Gore, Jr. will walk, and party with the jury afterwards like OJ did.

In Gore, Jr's defense, he could have been picking up his mom's prescriptions.

I didn't think Prius' would do 100 mph if you dropped them out of a plane.

--furious

--furious

Posted by Continuum | July 5, 2007 7:31 AM

"The comparison with Libby is pretty lame"

Lame or not, it is quick to point out, easy comparison to remember.

Try explaining all the details of Burger, Kennedy etal on a bumper sticker? Sad to say, but a bumper sticker amounts to political discourse for many people.

"Scooter scooted" but Gore's son did time.

My bet is that most Americans couldn't explain the Sandy Burger crime in under 30 minutes.

But lying to a judge, or drunk driving. These are easy to understand.

Like I said. Worst case scenario for neocon Republicans is for Gore's son to do actual time. The harder the prison, the more stark the comparison, the better the campaign slogan. (Yes, pretty cynical.)

Posted by Jim Treacher | July 5, 2007 7:50 AM

I'll leave Al Gore alone when he leaves me alone.

Posted by harleycon5 | July 5, 2007 7:51 AM

Hold on a second, capt'n.

As a Conservative, I also disdain the unjust attacks on the children of public figures if it is unjust. But in the case of Al Gore I am not sure that it is.

After all, Al Gore did everything he could to keep the fact he was a major pothead in college, which might explain his incredibly mediocre GPA, from seeing the light of day.

http://www.opinionet.com/article.php?id=456

His roomate at the time said that Gore came to him and wanted him to cover up his drug use, which was detailed as "smoking pot hundreds of times".

We are mainly blaming Al 3 for his actions, not the Goracle. But children DO learn their values from their parents, and it is not unfair to assume that, if nothing else, Al 3's father probably found it hard to chastise his son's drug use (if it was known) considering Gorical's daily consumption of illegal hemp at the same age.

This is not equivalent to the mistreatment of Chelsea Clinton or the Bush twins.

Posted by The Yell | July 5, 2007 7:51 AM

"The neocons should pray that the kid walks free. Otherwise, come election time, the Dems will emphasize that they accept responsibility fo their crimes while Bush's friends skate away."

great idea

Liberal Loser: "We pay for our crimes! Bushies walk!"

Right Wing Wacko Winner: "I will not be a crook or employ crooks."

Liberal Loser: "..."

Posted by Clyde | July 5, 2007 7:53 AM

Continuum, dude, have you been in Trey's stash?

First, this wouldn't be a Dem black ops situation, because they'd be stepping all over the Goracle's message on Saturday. You should be blaming evil Rove! I'm disappointed in you. Maybe you just haven't received your talking points from the mother ship yet...

Posted by NahnCee | July 5, 2007 7:55 AM

I wouldn't put it past the Dems to have purposely arranged for this arrest,on this particular day, in order to further highlight Scooter's scoot to freedom.

Continuum, in the universe of alternate reality inhabited by moonbats such as yourself, is there any such thing as an "act of God"?

Or is EVERYthing a conspiracy, and only you are smart enough to see behind the Wizard's draperies?

Posted by patrick neid | July 5, 2007 7:56 AM

capt,

"Patrick,

Adults are responsible for themselves. AG3 is 24. What are AG2 and Tipper supposed to do to stop him? When you were 24, were your parents somehow responsible for your actions? I think not."

my point was not directed at the son's responsibility. mine was pointed at the big picture, which is to say--are parents parenting skills etc responsible for the trajectory that a child, later on, takes in life?true it is up to the child, as an adult, to change that course as best they may. but does the parent get off scot free. i think not. as a result this, like profiling, will reflect on Al no matter what is publicly stated.

historically it is only lately that parents are given a pass on most of their children's behavior as adults..........

Posted by Clyde | July 5, 2007 7:56 AM

Continuum, dude, have you been in Trey's stash?

First, this wouldn't be a Dem black ops situation, because they'd be stepping all over the Goracle's message on Saturday. You should be blaming evil Rove! I'm disappointed in you. Maybe you just haven't received your talking points from the mother ship yet...

Second: Sandy Berger stole classified documents from the National Archives having to do with anti-terrorism policy during the Clinton administration and destroyed them. Theft of classified documents is a SERIOUS crime, even more so considering the degree of trust that was placed in this man.

DOCS IN SOX.

Enjoy your bumper sticker, dude!

Posted by Machiavelli | July 5, 2007 7:57 AM

Come on, the irony of Al Gore, Jr. doing a 100 mph while committing a crime is pretty rich. Personally, I couldn't care about Al Jr. and his problems, but that he did it in an environmentally friendly manner is noteworthy.

Commenting on that fact simply points out the hypocrisy of the holy-than-thou global warming types.

Posted by Continuum | July 5, 2007 8:10 AM

"Docs in Sox"

Actually pretty good.

Will make a good bumper sticker to counter-act "Scooter scooted".

In any case, you demonstrate an accurate understanding of American politics today (In contrast, the Lincoln-Douglass debates lasted hours). Other folks write 100 page expositions on why Kennedy is corrupt, or why Rove is the devil.

Have you ever tried explaining to your wife the fine points of the law regarding a CIA agent's covert status? Or, what happened during Iran-Contra? Or, why you forgot to take out the garbage?

If she listens more than 60 seconds before tuning you out, you'd better keep her. Those people are few and far between.

Sad to say, 30 second sound bites amount to political discourse.

Posted by NoDonkey | July 5, 2007 8:12 AM

Given that this poor shlub has spent thousands of hours in the company of Al Gore, I am not at all surprised he's reached for the relief of mind altering substances.

If the absolutely worthless Gore had not failed to steal the Presidency in 2000, we as a country would be hurtling down the Prius highway at 100 mph, hepped up on uppers/downers, in an attempt to ease our pain.

Posted by Continuum | July 5, 2007 8:27 AM

Right Wing Wacko Winner: "I will not be a crook or employ crooks."

This one would be good, too, except it is too similar to Nixon"s statement "Your President is not a crook!"

Posted by TW | July 5, 2007 8:29 AM

Next we'll be hearing that hybrid cars lead to drug abuse, and that SUVs are family-values friendly. ;-)

Posted by Terri | July 5, 2007 8:33 AM

Is it ok to pick on the Prius or do you consider that to be unfair too?

Posted by Lew | July 5, 2007 8:38 AM

Raising children, even under the best of circumstances, is an exercise in constantly diminishing influence. They are ours totally on that first precious day and from there on we are forced to smile as they slip away.

Al Gore, Jr. has some responsibility here, as all of us parents do, because about 90% of personality is determined in the first three years of childhood, when all of us have the most influence in our childrens' lives. So, even though its ill-defined and painfully tenuous, the responsibility is there nonetheless. Child rearing is the highest art of all human experience, and like all other art, can never be completely severed from the artist.

Perhaps the more apt bit of wisdom to repeat to each other is "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone". None of us have the smallest right to take any satisfaction from failures we all share.

Posted by frank | July 5, 2007 8:42 AM

Remember folks, this is an Orange County, not LA, jury/court you are dealing with...not too many fans of the Dems here...

In other words, Al Gore III is not going to get a lot of sympathy here....

Posted by Laura | July 5, 2007 8:44 AM

"His misfortunes tell us nothing about his father's policy or sanctimony"

"His bad behavior tells us nothing about his father's policy or sanctimony"

There. Fixed it for ya.

Posted by biwah [TypeKey Profile Page] | July 5, 2007 9:06 AM

Agreed with Lew. When we criticize politicians, we engage in a bit of projection, as we can only say what we would do IF we were in their shoes (not that we particularly want that). It's an exercise in which public judgment is legal tender, so

By contrast, as parents, politicians do not enjoy any boost in their power and influence beyond the rest of us, and they should be judged by the same standard we'd judge ourselves. Which is to say, we need to acknowledge their inherent difficulties and our own ignorance of the situation as outsiders.

Sure the families get exposed. But the sniping at them has a pernicious effect on the quality of our politics, and costs us dearly in the end. Needless to say that goes for any political party. Libs undercut their own political criticisms of Bush when they prattle on about the twins' college escapades.

Posted by Artie | July 5, 2007 9:18 AM

I'm really surprised at all this. I had no idea a hybrid could run that fast. I thought they maxed out at around 45 of 50.

Posted by m0okasaur | July 5, 2007 9:29 AM

As I saw this quip across the bottom of my Morning News I though it was Dejavu, didn't he get arrested once before on similar Charges. ( -2003?) The guys at fox wasted no time on Framing this in the worst possible way, and then of course it was on to the weather. Is Gore a real threat for 2008?

wow, had never read your Blog, actually got here by mistake and just kept reading. I'll tell you this though, after reading a few of the articles on your blog, I don't agree with most your politics, but If they ask me I will gladly say that The Captain is a class act.

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Posted by Marc | July 5, 2007 9:40 AM

Leaving the kid alone, no problem, but I might reconsider taking any advice from his Dad, who did an obviously stellar job in raising him. How about spending a little less time lecturing me and a little more time taking care of your kids, Al ?

Posted by Bithead | July 5, 2007 9:52 AM

It's obvious you don't have grown kids. You might have some input into your kids' attitudes, but there are many who fall far from the tree, especially as they get older.

So where was this argument, when the feeding frenzy occurred over than eighteen year old Jenna Bush tried to get a beer at a party?

Look, guys, a quick look back at history reveals the pattern; in each and every one of the cases were children of republicans were involved democrats, and in this I include the press, were quick to jump into the feeding frenzy. That's true even in the case of vice president Cheney's daughter for simply engaging in a lifestyle the liberals normally find nothing wrong with, and not even worth commenting on, if there were not a republican involved.

Clearly, democrats and the press (A redundancy) have no problems whatever in using this kind of thing as a political weapon. So, why in the world should I?

I submit that the activities taken on by Gore's kid are the direct result of the values and attitudes passed on to him by his father and his father circle of friends, and their values... values whioch are directly reflected in their politics.

The failure is certainly one of parenting, but go deeper; what we see is the logical consequences of the values that those of Al Gore's stripe are trying to get the rest of us to follow. Put another way; if the liberals one understanding of the failures in this country as regards Liberal non thought , all they need do is look what it's done to their own kids.

I'm sorry to have to disagree with you on this one, Ed, because I think yours is a noble sentiment. In the end, however, I think it a false nobility. As your other commentators have stated, there's a long track a stray from the democrats on the sort of thing.

And let's get real; do we have any indication whatever that if we're to stop pointing out the foibles of the families of democrats, that they would similarly stop attacking republican families? You know as well as I do that we do not.

Only by direct comparison do we see the values imparted to each of the families and the results of them. Here's your direct comparison; there is a major difference between a couple of eighteen year old girls of whatever parentage trying to get a beer at a party, and a 24 year old repeat offender so high on controlled substances that he can't see straight driving is the a: 100 miles an hour and better under the influence of same, and endangering other people's lives.

Sorry, Gore is not getting a pass from me, on this one. Or ever, for that matter.

Posted by quickjustice | July 5, 2007 9:59 AM

There was a similar incident involving Al III during the 2000 Presidential campaign. This is a consequence of the dynastic burden dumped on the Gore men, starting with Al's father. Pauline wanted her husband to be President, and much of Senator's life was spent in that quixotic quest.

Pauline then dumped the burden on her son. Al III, Pauline's grandson, is serving notice he doesn't want to be so burdened.

Posted by Tarnsman | July 5, 2007 11:32 AM

Given the glee that the MSM pursued the Bush twins underage drink stories, I say too bad and payback is a bitch. As far as making excuses for AG III because of his "burden", please stop. Some of us 'common people' would love to have that burden.

Posted by Dee | July 5, 2007 11:47 AM

Gore is known to bend rules for his politics.
Posted by: stackja1945 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2007 9:41 PM

Bending the rules for politics? Do you REALLY want to go there?

As for the Gore boy, he screwed up. Anyone who breaks the law should be held accountable and must deal with the consequences. Be they rich and famous, (read Paris), or politically well-connected (read Libby).

Oh, wait. Bush said we don't have to do that any more.

Posted by JEM | July 5, 2007 12:28 PM

Oh come on, get these comments back to what *really* matters.

How fast will a Prius really go? I'm talking under its own power, not 32-feet-per-second-per-second vertically.

As I noted before, I've seen a little over 90 and wasn't trying hard. I cruised at 80-85 most of the week I had it which is what I'd do in my own cars, the hybrid powertrain works fine. It's the rest of the car that sucks.

Posted by Dub Dublin | July 5, 2007 1:13 PM

Ed, you couldn't be more wrong. The situation in which the Bush daughters were vilified is nothing like that of Gore III: Jenna and Barbara were being college kids, sneaking a drink at a popular watering hole here in Austin - clearly wrong, but they were neither drunk nor endangering anyone else. The Bush girls were "outed" by the rabidly liberal staff of Chuy's restaurant with an inappropriate call to 911 *intended* to get the president's kids arrested. Al Gore III, in the other hand, was driving irresponsibly, thus attracting police attention all on his own. He further compounded that attention by reeking of pot, leading to a search of the car that turned up more drugs than poor Gore III can probably spell, none of which appear to be legitimate. Further, it appears that the Gorelet got off easy, without a DUI charge thrown into the mix, despite apparent ample evidence for such a charge.

There's a huge difference in the circumstances of those two events, and the relative newsworthiness of each, as well as the personal hostility and hate in one versus the other - I can only suspect something had you off your game when you wrote this...

Posted by ramiro | July 5, 2007 1:37 PM

Wasn't Tipper Gore trying to teach us all how to educate our kids?
I'm sorry. I disagree on this one.

Posted by Del Dolemonte | July 5, 2007 3:20 PM

bayrum said

"Funny thing is, Al Jr. may have problems, the Bush girls can't be taken seriously, and look at Chelsea. Who are the better parents?"

LOL! The Bush girls can't be taken seriously, Gracie?

Barbara Pierce Bush graduated from Yale with a degree in the humanities. After she got out of college, she lived and worked with AIDS patients in Africa thru a program sponsored by Baylor University. She currently works at one of the museums run by the Smithsonian.

Her sister Jenna after college taught at an inner city school in Washington DC and is currently teaching as an intern 7 days a week for UNICEF. She is working on a book about her experiences working for UNICEF in Central America. Harper Collins has already announce the book will be released this fall with a first run of 500,000 copies.

As for Chelsea, she was a history major and got a masters in international relations. Her thesis regurgitated what her Daddy did as President.

She got her current job, which has a six-figure salary, at a hedge fund run by a guy who donates heavily to Democrat causes-including donations to Chelsea's mom. How does a history major with a masters in international relations get such a cushy job in the financial sector? Her name, of course.

And last but not least, I note that despite the fact that wiki has entries for both Bush twins and Chelsea, Al Gore III mysteriously does not have a wiki entry. Given his repeated mishaps in the news, wiki is obviously covering up for him and his rich Daddy.

Posted by Rose | July 6, 2007 6:01 AM

When you are a Gore, why try to outrun the cops when your pop can buy you out of trouble? hhhmmmm.....

As for not picking on him, fine.

But it don't hurt to remind folks that one of the times sonny boy was in trouble, during hte 2000 Election season, Pop got the media bought off, and while the kid was in deep trouble, Pop was popping off about some Republican's children, full furnace blasting - until a BRITISH paper broke the news on Gore's own glass house.

Frankly, I think that the United States of America has suffered so very much at the hands of Dims like Algore and his father and their MOSCOW RESIDENT MENTOR, Armand Hammer, that I have reached the point that I don't care what it takes to take them down in order to help America throw off the den of termites.

If it only makes Conservatives look bad, and THAT IS THE WHOLE ENTIRE NET RESULT - then behave.

But if anything will take GLOWBALL GORE and his filthy lies and his political entourage DOWN for the FULL COUNT - you better do it while it works, and you can.

Because if you keep on messing around trying to be the NICE GUY, there won't be a HERO for you when you wise up enough to realize that your opportunity has passed you by.

You know, King Saul could have killed Goliath, WITH GOD'S HELP, as easy as Dav id did - but he refused and sat in his tent, WEARING HIS CROWN, until he had lost his anointing to be a leader, to a little shepherd boy delivering cheeses to his brothers.

At least Algore is out there swinging.

That is more than I can say for a lot of Conservatives, who are too worried about what Miss Manners has to say about them.

They better start worrying that she'll only be talking about them IN THEIR OBITUARY!

Posted by The Chemist | July 6, 2007 1:24 PM

Group Quote: "A Prius can go 100 MPH?"

Just another example of the multitudes of things most Repubs know absolutely nothing about yet, act like they're experts. Chalk that one up with "Nation Building", "Compassion" and "Ethics".

I'd love to see links of the "excoriation" the Bush twins got after their under-age drinking escapades. Seemed like a one-and-done case from my end. Pretty nice of the MSM, given the entire family are a bunch of drunks and Laura is an enabler who smokes like a chimney (yet we've never seen a picture of that, have we?)!

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