September 6, 2007

California Didn't Consider Hsu A Flight Risk

Sometimes politicians can be so adorable when they're clueless, and California Deputy Attorney General Ralph Sivilla is a case in point. The New York Times' Leslie Wayne and Carolyn Marshall asked Sivilla why the state didn't ask to keep Hsu locked up without bail, and Sivilla had to defend that decision while Hsu high-stepped it to Oakland and perhaps points beyond:

Ralph Sivilla, a deputy California attorney general, said the government had believed that Mr. Hsu was not a flight risk, based on the amount of his bail, his promise to relinquish his passport to the court and the fact that he had turned himself in.

“Those circumstances had seemed to suggest that he was not a flight risk,” Mr. Sivilla said. “There was something hanging over his head. There were things in place.”

When asked whether he thought Mr. Hsu had left the country, Mr. Sivilla said, “I would imagine he has the capability.”

Mr. Sivilla defended his office’s handling of the case, and said discussions were under way about trying to find Mr. Hsu, but that he was not at liberty to comment further on the search or on who was involved in the discussions.

Uh, okay. Perhaps Sivilla's office managed to overlook the key fact that Hsu is a convicted con man. Hsu pled guilty to fraud in a California court 15 years ago -- and then fled after admitting guilt. How can anyone look at that set of circumstances and conclude that Hsu wouldn't flee if given the opportunity?

Hsu should never have received bail. He jumped bail the last time he presented it, and besides, Hsu is not entitled to it. There is no presumption of innocence. Hsu pled guilty to fraud, and detention was part of the agreement for that plea. He should have remained in jail until his formal sentencing and subsequent trial for flight to evade his prison term.

How many other people who flee their sentencing and get recaptured get granted bail? Does California routinely let people post bond after having run out on it before? The Times doesn't ask those questions, and neither does their West Coast counterpart, the Los Angeles Times. Investigative journalists interested in how Hsu got sprung from custody might want to start asking those questions as well as how Hsu got his $2 million bail bond in the first place -- because what bondsman would consider him an acceptable risk?

Meanwhile, Hillary's keeping the bundled money that Hsu brought to her campaign:

The Clinton campaign has said it will give $23,000 in direct donations from Hsu to charity, but keep the money he bundled. Wolfson declined to release the names of bundled donors. He said that the campaign had not been contacted by the FBI about Hsu's fundraising.

I guess that Hillary and her campaign must really enjoy the stench attached to Hsu's cash, bundled or not.


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Comments (37)

Posted by Cybrludite | September 6, 2007 7:37 AM

If you want to talk to Hsu, I think I've got a Ouija board around here somewhere, or maybe we can get Edwards to offer his services as a medium. Otherwise, we aren't going to hear from him again.

Posted by hunter | September 6, 2007 7:42 AM

This stinks of yet another democrat party coverup of their corruption.
An elected democrat effectively frees an obvious flight risk who may pose a threat to a deomcrat.
Of course this will be investigated with the same vigor as the crooked land deals of Harry Ried, the defense contract steering by Sen. Feinstein, and the still serving Rep. Jefferson, etc. etc.
Instead all energy will be focused on Sen. Craig.

Posted by zdpl0a | September 6, 2007 7:46 AM

Kathleen Willey's manuscript for her book coming out stolen from her house over the weekend, Hsu disappears into the night, 'The Path To 9/11" DVD release spiked by Disney and the writer told by ABC that it is a Hillary issue.....

Here we go again......

Posted by John Steele | September 6, 2007 8:02 AM

I'm starting a pool on where Hsu's bail money came from. Chinese government anyone?

Posted by Retread | September 6, 2007 8:08 AM

John, I think you'll have a pool of one since everybody seems to figure Hsu's money came from China.

Posted by feeblemind | September 6, 2007 8:15 AM

Maybe I missed a key element of the story, but why didn't Hsu hop on a plane instead of turning himself in and posting bail in the first place?

Posted by rbj | September 6, 2007 8:28 AM

feeble -- I'm betting he either needed to make arrangements to flee first and kne whe was going to get released on bail so turning himself in just bought him the needed time. The other option is that someone told him to do it this way, but he wound up having an "accident."

Posted by Rovin | September 6, 2007 8:35 AM

How many other people who flee their sentencing and get recaptured get granted bail? Does California routinely let people post bond after having run out on it before?

Michael Savage was asking these same questions yesterday on his radio show, but he was directing them at our former Cal governor and newly elected California Attorney General Edmund Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. Jerry is a SF native and a graduate from Berkeley......need I say more? This ultra liberal has managed to effect/inject the softer side of socialism for the better part of a generation now. Brown took this state back into the red fiscally after Reagan had put us into the black for the first time in decades.

It would be interesting to find out if Mr. Hsu was around or had any relationship with Jerry Brown, who also did a stint as an Oakland mayor.

Posted by GarandFan | September 6, 2007 8:37 AM

Welcome to the wacky world of "justice" in Kalifornia.

The prosecutor dropped the ball big time. He could have requested no bail, given Hzu's past. At the very least, he could have requested that Hzu surrender his passport to the court.

Reminds me of the time an ex-con stole a handgun from his mother's house. He was caught with the weapon the next day. Two days later he was out, NO BAIL, pending trial. That night he slit his mother's throat for reporting the gun theft.

Posted by unclesmrgol | September 6, 2007 8:56 AM

Actually, Hsu pleaded no contest. Slightly different than pleading guilty, but close enough.

Posted by danforth | September 6, 2007 9:05 AM

check out
The contributions by Hsu to democrats reads like a who's who of what i call the dem mafia. no blue dogs here. just kerry, boxer, feinstein kennedy, etc. oh and just for kicks "charities" like emilys's list. you know, the kind of charity that gets the dirty money when they are caught and they want to keep it in their system. that kind of charity. Hillary's fav...

Posted by Richard Aubrey | September 6, 2007 9:35 AM

I imagine Hillary's campaign is used to it.

What we really need is a forensic investigation of Sivilla's finances with particular attention to recent episodes of prosperity.

Posted by Cousin Dave | September 6, 2007 9:52 AM

So, just looking at what went down here, the obvious conclusion is that Hsu, or one of his connections, has strings that they can pull inside the California AG's office. I think we're looking at a much bigger issue here than one small-time con man.

Posted by Steve Skubinna | September 6, 2007 9:59 AM

I recall reading when Jerry Brown was elected AG he stated his office would concentrate on environmental "criminals." So there you go. Had Hsu chopped down a redwood or Torrey Pine he'd be in jail without bail.

Posted by rudytbone | September 6, 2007 10:02 AM

A more cynical view, he's dead. Let the conspiracy theories abound. Vincent Foster's legacy lives on. Open question: Would it be too much to think that Hillary had a problem eliminated?

Posted by Steve Skubinna | September 6, 2007 10:03 AM

On the other hand, had Hsu ended up in a CA cell, instead of sharing it with a tattooed Aryan Brotherhood biker named Spike, he'd be with Joe Schmuck, a retired tool and die maker at Northrup, imprisoned for running his lawn sprinkler three minutes beyond his permitted time.

I bet CA prisons are very civilized places nowadays.

Posted by Joselito | September 6, 2007 11:26 AM

Sometimes it is fun to wonder about the motives of some of our leading politicians, however, "follow the money" is the overriding factor in figuring out what is going on.

We do not need to embellish, invent, or speculate with this story. There is NO jurisdiction in which a one time bail and sentence jumper would be granted bail a second time, let alone allowed to keep his passport. This for a defendant who obviously has the resources to flee.

Posted by Geoffrey Leach | September 6, 2007 11:44 AM

Hey, its AG Moonbeam -- what did we expect?

Posted by Bikerken | September 6, 2007 12:13 PM

Doesn't anyone get it? The first ten questions about Hsu were exactly right. Hsu is getting his money from the Chinese govt! He is getting it because the Chinese have a strong interest in seeing the Klintons back in the whitehouse. Remember how well that worked out for them last time??!! None of his background checks out, it is all a front. How obvious can it be, the man is a SPY! His job is to funnel money to the socialists running for office and relate the wishes of the chinese govt to them. This is the headline that the libs will do anything to avoid because it would sink hillary like the titanic.

Posted by Neo | September 6, 2007 12:52 PM

So why should Hillary, the Eva Braun of campaign finance, return this obviously "dirty money" ?

It isn't like it's from a Budhist temple of something.

Posted by chsw | September 6, 2007 1:29 PM

The mainstream media isn't giving the story the play it deserves. Their line is if the Hsu flits, bury it.


Posted by mrlynn | September 6, 2007 1:37 PM

Rush points out that somebody in California wanted Hsu gone, so he got bail—somebody important. Moonbeam Brown?

Unless the blogs and the talk shows stay on this the way they did with Rathergate, the pro-Clinton media will bury it.

We need some serious investigative reporting.

/Mr Lynn

Posted by richard mcenroe | September 6, 2007 2:36 PM

"How can anyone look at that set of circumstances and conclude that Hsu wouldn't flee if given the opportunity?">

Well, if you're looking at a US Attorney appointment and the judge is looking at a guarantee of the next open seat on the 9th Circuit under Hillary, I imagine it's pretty easy...

Posted by hunter | September 6, 2007 3:16 PM

The decision to not release a popular show tells me that the Clinton media control machine is already in full form.
This is the same media that routinely outs real secrets.
One of the consistent warnings of our FF's was about the dangers of moral decay. I would say a media that is so lazy and partisan as to jsut let this slide, or to censor movies, in favor of a candidate, is a pretty good example of decay.

Posted by Barnestormer | September 6, 2007 3:23 PM

Mrlynn could well be right, but the WaPo at one time displayed some interest in the Clinton's
Chinese money Trie
(If only inadvertently in pursuit of its campaign finance agenda.) Against all odds, even it might be looking for another Hsu to drop.

Posted by Tim W | September 6, 2007 4:07 PM

My hunch is that Hsu is back in China right now sleeping off his jet lag waiting for his next assignment. His entire story is a total fraud and if he were a Republicans donor, this story would be front page news for months. This story need to be pushed by the Republicans big time. The MSM will never pursue it because they corrupt morally bankrupt criminals and it goes against their socialist agenda.

Posted by RD | September 6, 2007 4:36 PM

There must be a very dirty and much worse story behind this guy if the Judge and deputy California Attorney General are willing to look so dumb, careless and with egg on their faces i.e.keeping him must have made them more afraid. What is it about the Clintons that makes people willing to ruin themselves in order to carry out their dirty work? It's impossible for an ordinary thinking person who values his name and integrity to comprehend.
Look at Sandy the Burglar...he will be called that by me until he or I die. What ailed him as my Father would put it. He was willing to lose his good name and reputation on a fool's errand. Why? The Clintons may try to rehabilitate him if that du-over team gets reelected but still the damage is there in many of our minds. It's insane, it's mind boggling and it's stupid. I believe Kathleen Willey's story even though it sounds weird because if you remember the same thing happened to a writer in California during the Kerry try. He had a trunkful of information on Kerry (used to write a book) and it was suddenly missing. Must have been the same fumbling private investigator.

Posted by RD | September 6, 2007 4:48 PM

As for Hillary enjoying the stench of the money she enjoys the stench of any and all money-she is only happy when she has the whole US treasury to rumble with. She is a compulsive person who can never have enough money or power to fill that void which exists where her soul should reside. She is like King Midas, enough will never be enough. She gave up the chance for love and settled for an empty marriage for it.

Posted by Neo | September 6, 2007 5:29 PM

Isn't this the stuff that had Amerians running away from the Clintons in 2000. Now we're supposed to embrace the horror.

Posted by MarkJ | September 6, 2007 7:49 PM

It's now been established that Hsu was actually wearing an FBI wire in the days before his disappearance. Here's a transcript of the last few seconds before the wire went dead:

Hsu: No! No! I promise I won't rat on you! Why are you doing this to me? Haven't I always been loyal to you?

First Unidentified Voice: You're a big problem for us and we're gonna take care of it. Say hello to my little friend!

(muffled sound of multiple gunshots)

First Voice: What do you want us to do now, Skipper?

Second Voice (tentatively identified as Hillary Clinton): Leave the gun. Take the spring rolls.

Posted by burt | September 6, 2007 7:59 PM

"Hsu got his $2 million bail bond in the first place -- because what bondsman would consider him an acceptable risk?"

Beijing Travel at your service.

Posted by viking01 | September 6, 2007 10:25 PM

I heard that Hsu's last words were:

"Hey that Clinton Library DOES look like a double-wide on stilts!"

Ashtray flies across room. Fade to black.

About the bail it's probably the ChiComs but given the DNC platform it could just as well have been Al Quaeda.

Posted by RD | September 6, 2007 10:37 PM

Hocus pocus and a snap of the fingers and $2,000,000 in cash suddenly appears. Oh wait, he had to cool his heels in jail for 5 hours while the bills were being printed er ah I mean minted. Did anyone check their temperature to see if they were hot off the press (and maybe a little bit damp) or fresh out of the freezer (cold, hard, cash)? All new bills in sequence or worn old bills from being in the mattress? Did any bank report a run on cash (don't they have to report each movement of money over $10,000)? Who brought it? Who signed off on it? Did he leave reluctantly or eagerly? Where are the reporters?

Posted by J | September 6, 2007 11:35 PM

Interesting comment about Mrs. Clinton never having enough money. During Mr. Clinton's residency in the WH or slightly before, Time Magazine (yes, that Time) ran a long story on the Clintons. Apparently after they had lost Mr. Clinton's second run at the AK governorship, Mrs. Clinton was complaining that their %75,000+ was not enough money to live on. People, this was in the late 1970's. In AK, that would have been plenty for most people. SO, her desire for bocoup bucks has never changed; there will never be enough; her actions are greedy, selfish, and she's a consummate liar. We are in for some very bad times if she pulls this off. Frankly she has to be miserable but unfortunately, she tries to spread her misery to the rest of us.

Posted by unclesmrgol | September 7, 2007 12:38 AM

He's back in custody. Arrested in Colorado a bit ago.

Posted by Bikerken | September 7, 2007 2:27 AM

How much you wanna bet this guy gets out again!?!?! Anyone who could put up two mil to get this Chicomm spy back out on the street will do it again! And we all know to what extent the justice system will bend over backwards to kiss the Klintoons asses. Just watch. It's a given.

Posted by docjim505 | September 7, 2007 4:10 AM

OK, who's giving odds that Hsu will be released on bail again?

And would anybody like to give odds on the MSM never, ever asking who put up his bail money in the first place?

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