Captain's Quarters -

How about the rumors that Soros supports drug legalization for very personal reasons? ;-)

I remember reading these exposes in the MSM that were full of these great charts and diagrams. They did this for the S&L collapse and few other things.

When the Oil for Food story broke, I thought naively that the press would really go to town on that, give us all the details.

Well, we know how THAT worked out. Soros will similarly get little mention.

Soros is not interested in stability anywhere. It's how he made his money and continues to make it. The only control he is interested in is what his money can buy him.

Through networks of nongovernmental organizations, Soros intends to ruin the presidency of George W. Bush "by any legal means necessary" and knock America off its global pedestal. "His view of America is so negative," says Sen. Joe Lieberman, who, like Gen. David Petraeus, has been a target of Soros' electoral "philanthropy." "The places he's put his money are ... so destructive that it unsettles me." Soros' aim seems to be to make the U.S. just another client state easily controlled by the United Nations and other one-world groups where he has lots of friends.

Best known among these groups is MoveOn.org, a previously small fringe-left group to which Soros has given $5 million since 2004. Bulked up by cash, the group now uses professional public relations tactics to undercut the Iraq War effort, with its latest a full-page New York Times ad that branded Gen. Petraeus "General Betray Us."

Soros also has financed spin outfits such as Media Matters that specialize in providing distorted conservative political statements as grist for leftist politicians and media.

Media Matters (and MoveOn.org) succeeded last year in denying incumbent Lieberman the Democratic nomination for Senate in Connecticut and effectively drove the moderate out of his own party. Net result: Fewer Democrats, including today's crop running for office, are willing to challenge any Soros-financed pressure group.

Soros' efforts go beyond spin. He has also bankrolled groups involved in the manipulation of elections, an activity that has increased since his money came into the picture. Two groups -- Americans Coming Together and the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- were sanctioned recently by the Federal Election Commission for fraud.

Soros owns the Clinton's. With Hillary Clinton holding the highest position in American politics, Soros will have his best opportunity to take down the American empire.

Soros additionally finances groups supporting the interests of one-world government. While he has criticized the United Nations occasionally, he favors U.N. dominance in world affairs, sees the European Union as a model for "open society" and has called for a global central bank.

Anyone who doesn't agree with this vision, or who doesn't fit cozily into his multilateral model, gets a visit from Soros-backed groups.

MoveOn.org, for example, led the charge to keep John Bolton out of a permanent seat in the U.N., and Bankwatch piled on to topple Paul Wolfowitz at the World Bank.

In fact, pick any cause that seeks to weaken the U.S. and it's hard not to find Soros' name on its list of financial backers. Most of these causes are financed by relatively small amounts, but that's all that's needed to make trouble.

And without the cash, countless bad ideas would have no presence in American political debate at all.

What keeps these groups on cue, and Democrats in line, is the prospect that any funding from Soros can be stepped up to massive levels. It's probably no coincidence that Soros was a big backer of campaign finance reforms that have allowed nominally nonpartisan groups like MoveOn.org to strike with the kinds of tactics they are using.

Soros usually doesn't offer up or endorse specific candidates for office. His chief aim seems to be tearing down Bush, driving the Democrats to the far left and enforcing party discipline through fear. In fact, he seems to like keeping Democrats guessing whether or not he's offended.

The strategy seems to be working. No Democrat had the courage to cross MoveOn.org after its libelous Petraeus ad. On Thursday, a symbolic vote in Congress censuring MoveOn.org for the Petraeus ad passed, but with the notable absence of both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Election looming, neither wants to cross Soros' MoveOn.org.

I remember in the 1990s reading a fair number of pieces about Richard Mellon Scaife, mostly because of his supposed involvement in funding "The Arkansas Project", various investigations of Bill Clinton.

Would Soros ever get the same scrutiny? Probably not, since I think a lot of news organizations essentially share his vision don't they?

Three words: Soros, Safra, gold.

Soros sounds like the glazier who supports protest groups that throw bricks through windows, or the builder who quietly funds arsonists. Or maybe the treasure-hunder who pays to have navigation charts altered so there will be more shipwrecks.

This hardly qualifies as altruism, philanthrophy, or charity.

Soros is worthy of maximum effort by the sane world to bring him down and put him where he belongs: In Prison.

Trouble being, he has the gold, the lawyers, knows where all the skeletons are hidden, and has many, many, VIPs in high places in his pocket.

He is more of a danger to this Republic than all of the Mullahs in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Lets hope that American Justice catches up with him.

Sooner rather than later.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

In his "Discover the Networks" links of players and organizations of the Left, David Horowitz had George Soros's number quite some time ago. Check it out: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977
The whole site is an eye opener.

Tuh-Ray-Zuh Heinz is affiliated with the Tides Foundation. Guess whom she is married to? Guess as well Soros's role in Jawn Cary's run for the presidency.

What amazes me about Lefties crying the blues about corporate rule of the world is that they are unsuspecting dupes of a far more manipulative, monomaniacal, power-grasping creep like Soros,who would enslave any and all economies through money market manipulations. We would all be serfs in his fiefdom. Talk about a one-worlder; the man abhors the idea of nationhood.

Given that George Soros can buy whole countries with pocket change, he is a force not to be ignored. But, somehow, we (the American public at large) seem to be ignoring him. His "contributions" to the Tides Foundation, ACT, MoveOn, and so many more are a bold effort to purchase a country...ours.

More about the "shadow party" of George Soros and his network is here">here">http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589">here.

One of the more telling excerpts:

With Hillary Clinton poised to run for the presidency of the United States in 2008, Soros' activities loom more significant than ever before. Soros is a staunch supporter of Mrs. Clinton, who, in turn, has long admired Soros and shares many of his agendas. At a 2004 "Take Back America" conference in Washington, DC, Mrs. Clinton introduced Soros with these words:

“Now, among the many people who have stood up and said, ‘I cannot sit by and let this happen to the country I love,’ is George Soros, and I have known George Soros for a long time now, and I first came across his work in the former Soviet Union, in Eastern Europe, when I was privileged to travel there, both on my own and with my husband on behalf of our country. ... [W]e need people like George Soros, who is fearless, and willing to step up when it counts.” (Cited in David Horowitz and Richard Poe, The Shadow Party, p. 53)

The first "Discover The Networks" was "The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion." You may find this hard to believe, but the Protocols weren't too keen on Jews. "Discover The Networks" isn't keen on anyone who challenges the Republican Party. They're both worthless creative writing projects which should be relegated to the Fantasy section of any Political Science Library. Read todays Captain's Quarters cartoon if you don't believe me. It's intended as satire, but hits the nail on the head--there really are people out there who believe that George Soros is the Devil, just as there are demented people who believe that The Protocols PROVE that Jews are intent on World Domination.

Bennett said:

"I remember in the 1990s reading a fair number of pieces about Richard Mellon Scaife, mostly because of his supposed involvement in funding "The Arkansas Project", various investigations of Bill Clinton."

Ah, yes. The hated Scaife. He was the Clinton ass-kisser's fave villain. The only difference is that Scaife is/was an insane millionaire from Pittsburgh, which hatches those people like flies. Soros is an insane millionaire with a worldwide influence.

The dilemma for the anti-Scaife people was that when anyone tried to scrutinize his background, they found a slight problem-Scaife at the same time also financed or donated to more than a few liberal causes. I don't have the link handy, but the FEC lists who he gave money to.

Warning-he gave cash to such disreputable causes as Ronald McDonald Houses, as well as the official Pittsburgh Brass Band (not that there is anything wrong with that!)

///sarcasm///

I wouldn't be all that smug, Montag.

The Protocols (apparently a forgery of the Tsarist secret police according to most good sources) hold the premise/and promise that the Jews are going to take over the world and rule over the goyim.

George Soros, a Hungarian Jew, is in a position to do just that, and has tried mightly thus far to do exactly that that.

Soooo....might not be such a stretch after all....maybe...in the long run...maybe the Protocols aren't a forgery at all? Maybe they were written by a cabal of Hungarian Jews? Maybe Soros is the Chosen One of Article XXIII?

///sarcasm///

Seriously, anyone who tosses off concern about Soros and the power, very real, already demonstrated power of ONE man who has serious cachet among world leaders and world organizations, and the money and ready access to global financial networks to do as he pleases, is whistling past the graveyard.

There is a very real threat there.

The make George Soros even more worth deep research is his ties and connections to the mystery man, Maurice Strong.
Soros, who is not allowed to do any business in China, teamed up with Maurice Strong to import a Chinese car, the Chery. It was part of the Soros/Strong plan to destroy the U.S. auto industry totally.
The Canadian Free Press has done a number of articles on Strong and he makes Soros look like a bit player. Together, they are death personified to nations.

So why don't you right wing douche bags invest any time on the right wing "philanthropists" that spend at least as much as Soros on partisan activity?

Just curious.

Well, jpe, care to provide a few names? Hard to believe there are very many people who spend as much as Soros on any political activity. Just a few names, a simple request.

By the way, douche bags? A bit juvenile isn't it?

He uses instability to make money in his currency speculation, racking up billions while nations reel from the effects of his trading.

Capitalism, apparently, is only bad when pro-democracy people engage in it. The hypocrisy from this blog reeks to high heaven.

jpe, apparently you are a bit lacking in your knowledge of George Soros and his career in the global money markets, the source of his wealth. "He uses instability to make money in his currency speculation, racking up billions while nations reel from the effects of his trading," is not a false statement. This is the very definition of his global business. As for "pro-democracy" Soros is anything but.

My computer is going nice and slow, so I can't be sure of the numbers, but there are plenty of huge conservative foundations that give almost exclusively to partisan groups. Those righty PFs (private foundations) give way more to partisan groups than the top lefty ones. Tides and Open Society are the only avowedly partisan groups on the left (and both give to international groups whose agendas shouldn't be controversial), whereas the top righty foundations give, almost without exception, only to hack right wing partisan groups.

Yet virtually no one makes mention of them. And that's likely because the right is chock full o' hypocrites. Righties can be capitalists that give all their money to "charities" like Heritage Foundation, but a lefty that makes money and supports a political cause?

Well, that makes righties get the vapors.

I think with all the remarks the president has
made regarding MoveOn and the dems he has opened
the door for some real speaking out from the
conservatives.

it is time for the ordinary citizen who does not
search deeply into the issues or the integrity of
the people running for office and think someone
like Hillary will be a great first women president
should be shown the truth EVERYDAY IN EVERY WAY.

Talk show hosts, columnists, reporters, blogs
should go at it non-stop. Let the dems know we
are not going to let our country go down to the
level soros will take it if Hillary or Obama
wins. You know the desm, if they think they
are being picked on, they scream and whine,
they will spread the word by themselves. or
do something equally as stupid. They panic and
we get the laugh everytime, not yet with this,
but we could end up laughing.

If the right does not take this open door and
go through it, start looking for evidence which
I think could go back to the Clintons for guite
sometime and their attachment to him. There must
be something somewhere to help stop them.

The more it is written about, the more chance
we have of winning in 08 and when it is pointed
out day after day about the dems voting as he
tells hem, eventually the people may see
things more clearly.

I do not think this can be just brushed under
the rug this time. If the conservatives do not
do something to stop this, their failure to
do so will stay forever in people's minds.

The people of America do not deserve the
filth the soros group is, not in any way and
it we shut the door and shut up, that is what
will happen.

It hss been too long a time as it is, and
it may be too late. If so, any person who knew
this truth will forever wonder if we could
have shown the facts, would we have stopped it?

The president showed clearly that he is more
than willing to point out again and again,
how the dems must follow soros and MoveOn.

?

He uses instability to make money in his currency speculation, racking up billions while nations reel from the effects of his trading," is not a false statement.

He trades commodities. That's part of what we call "capitalism." So you're right, he racks up billions in currency speculation, but unless you're averse to capitalism that shouldn't present a problem. You sound like you really hate Wal-Mart for "racking up billions" from "the effects of its trading."

You may not have covered that in your GED class, so take some time to digest it.

But Tides and Open Society are NOT the only "avowedly partisan groups on the left." Perhaps a bit of homework would provide that information to you, slow computer or not.

Funny thing, both Tides and Open Society are funded primarily by Soros, among other organizations he sponsors, such as ACORN and ACT and MoveOn and a number of others. Do some homework. Get your facts in order, feel free to visit again.

And bring along a few names of Republican or Right-wing philanthropists who give at least as much as Soros to partisan organizations. I'd like to know more about them.

And of course Conservative foundations give to partisan groups, pretty much solely to Conservative groups, I'd imagine.

Don't forget to bring along those names of those right wingers who give at least as much as Soros, OK?

jpe, trading commodities and playing the international currency market are not the same thing. Go back to Econ 102, review your notes.

Soros in 1992 scored $10 bullion and almost brought the British Pound to its knees and upset the British economy for several years. In 1997 he did the same thing to Malaysia, put thousands and thousands of Malaysian people out of work and sent the Malaysian economy into a nose dive. In both cases, out of several, those who suffered the most were those who could afford to suffer the least. But Soros openly boasted about his financial cunning.

And there you go about Wal-Mart. A legal business. Has a good basic business plan. Sam Walton did a good job.

GED? Way way beyond that, skippy.

But Tides and Open Society are NOT the only "avowedly partisan groups on the left." Perhaps a bit of homework would provide that information to you, slow computer or not.

No, they are pretty much the only avowedly partisan private foundations on the left. Look at the Rockefellers and Carnegies and their percentage of pure charity, then look at the Olins and Bradleys. The righties donate virtually all of their money to hack political groups, the "lefties" give to actual charities.

You were right about Soros, though.

From what I have read over the years, a majority of partisan funding comes from philanthropic foundations. Some of these foundations fund both the Left and the Right, but the majority fund one or the other. In the most recent summation I have on my desk, notes from a previous look at philanthropy and American politics from this past summer, foundations that fund the Left have assets of $27.5 billion. The foundations that fund the Right have assets of $5.1 billion. More than half of the Right’s figure [$2.8 billion] comes from the Lilly Endowment, and the Endowment only awards 3 percent of its grants to conservative organizations. It offers grants to Left foundations as well. [Monetary amounts, I believe, come from the Nevada Policy Research Institute. ]

Trace the cash.

A bit of homework can open all sorts of doors to understanding.

To say that Soros is a capitalist is to say that a maggot is a carnivore. Soros only survives by increasing and feasting on the amount of death and carnage in the world.
Of course our lefty friends think that is OK, as we see here.

From Rudy,

This organization, Moveon.org, is the biggest single proponent of the politics of character assassination in the history of this country. They have spent hundreds of millions of dollars attacking the characters exclusively of Republican candidates — very often for the House, sometimes the Senate, sometimes other offices. That is their specialty...to spend two or three or four million dollars in a congressional district, and destroy the reputation of the Republican candidate. That is disgraceful in and of itself...

But when they decided on the morning of September 11 to print an ad in the New York Times, taking their politics of personal assassination and pointing it at the American general who is responsible for the lives and the safety of our troops in Iraq, I said to myself, "This goes way too far. This has stepped over a line. Surely we're a decent enough country to stand up against this and say, 'Enough is enough!'"

The usual lefty whack jobs that post comments here at CQ regularly, have chosen not to participate in this thread to this point. Maybe they have recognized that "enough is enough"...

O.K., I'll go get some more coffee and stop dreaming...

It is interesting that George Soros early years are rarely discussed. During the occupation of Budapest by the Nazis we find the very origins of Soros wealth -- he was a Kapo, and as such helped the Nazis steal the wealth of his fellow Jews:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/george-soros-on-helping-the-nazis-during-the-holocaust

There are others. Peter Lewis, Heinz,...

JPE, you keep using vague terms for these 'righties', like 'rightie'. Why don't you name names and list amounts of dollars? Until you do you have no credibility and there is nothing to talk about.

(I don't think it is the computer that is slow there, JPE;)

So when Soros says that America needs "de-Nazification" perhaps this means he is contemplating suicide.

Interesting comments, cold warrior. My previous night's comments were beer-inflected, so I apologize for the obnoxiousness. That said, I've worked with private foundations quite a bit, and from what I've seen the foundations on the left (Carnegie, Novo, Rockefeller, etal) generally focus their giving on non-partisan organizations, while the right-wing foundations give almost exclusively to partisan think tanks (I don't think I'd class Lily Endowment as a right wing PF, even, because they tend to give so much to churches and religious orgs, IIRC).

That said, my claims are now synthetic, rather than analytic (such as rebutting the obviously stupid notion that Soros is anti-capitalist), so I'm off to crunch numbers (this is a long-term project, but something I've wanted to for a while. I'll drop a trackback when the topic arises again)

So; Soros conned Bush into invading Iraq so he could reap $billions$ on the ensuing death and carnage, while sending good capitalists like Halliburton and Blackwater to the poor house.

The Left is evil!

wtw

"No escape from the mass mind rape"

We do need a denazification, and we're getting it now.

Every American imperialist killed in Iraq is one less we will have to deal with later.

In re the Schwag comment above:

A punk radical wannabe armed with nothing more than a keyboard and a sewer mouth is one we can easily deal with, his fevered dreams of progroms and gulags for all us American imperialists notwithstanding. There's more of us than there is of him and we have better weapons.

"We beat you yesterday, we beat you today, and we'll beat you tomorrow. We don't choose to lose."
(h/t John McCain)

if soros was a kapo during the nazi occupation of budapest it means that he is a bit long in the tooth and that we can look forward to a self soloution of the problem in the near future.

C

Reading this post is like reading an issue of National Enquirer. First, the voter registrations you ominously quote resulted from individual workers making out false voter registrations to get paid more on a per VR basis. Do you think Donald Duck acually voted. Secondly, if Soros gives money to MoveON or any other political advovacy group, we allow that in America. I guess rich republicans never give to political organizations they agree with. Give me a break. As for the rest of the article it's nothing but rumor and inuendo which is par for the smear and fear right. Have you no shame, sirs.

He trades commodities. That's part of what we call "capitalism." So you're right, he racks up billions in currency speculation, but unless you're averse to capitalism that shouldn't present a problem. You sound like you really hate Wal-Mart for "racking up billions" from "the effects of its trading."

The problem comes if Soros creates the very instabilities he exploits. It's as if Wal-Mart deliberately impoverished people to increase the number of people who shop there.

jpe,
a money-changer is NOT a capitalist. John Smith's book was titled "Wealth of Nations." Not "Wealth from Nation's Currency Trading".

An arbitrageur then? An arbitrageur adds value to the system if he makes it more efficient or shares risk. But if he corrupts the system to create inefficiencies and then takes a share to correct them, he's a scam and a protection racket.

In the 90's, Soros forced a devaluation of the Pound, and made billions. I wonder how much he is making on the re-alignment of the US Dollar v the Canadian Dollar?

Drew, have another beer pendejo!!

The only reason the US dollar is in free fall is the idiot you and the other comepingas that visit sites like this put in the White House.

It's basic economics: supply and demand.

There is a huge supply of dollars in the world. This supply was/is being created by the US government that borrows to pay its bills, and the US consumer that loves the cheap crap out of China and imported oil.

Soros has nothing to do with the value of the US$ vs Cnd$. Canada is a huge exporter, our largest energy (oil, natural gas & electricity) supplier. The only thing we stupid gringos export is our money.

That's the problem. The next problem is all you moronic rightwingers that frequent sites like this.

"The next problem is all you moronic rightwingers that frequent sites like this."

Which would explain why you've joined us.

Welcome to the jungle
We got fun 'n' games
We got everything you want
Honey we know the names
We are the people that can find
Whatever you may need
If you got the money honey
We got your disease

(Guns 'n Roses)

Bennett,

If I don't abuse you sheisskopfs, who will?

After the way you all have trashed our country, God knows you need it!

Ah Schwag, it seems more like you have your face pressed up against the window watching all the fun inside and wishing you were one of us. And we do have more fun, we fanatical right-wingers, we don't just sit around waiting for HAL to tell us what to do next.

Adam Smith, not John. Duh.

Hey Ed, I see there's plenty of opportunity for nutpicking here!

Seriously though, this sort of attack on Soros by IBD and by extension yourself does lower my opinion of you as a fair, if partisan guy, because it's just pure character assassination that has a faint odor of Julius Streicher about it. Stop it please, for everyone's sake.

Don't "stop it please" CE... Exposing the likes of SOROS is of paramount importance. The very fact that Soros is attempting to "purchase" the Democratic Party should be frightening to all; including SF Dude...

Keemo, Soros isn't giving money to the Democratic Party, he's giving money to some activist groups which don't work hand-in-hand with Democrats either. If they did, you can be sure MoveOn's ad would have been worded differently.

Take a closer look at the facts Dude; don't allow yourself to fall into a state of denial of truth. Soros is using the left in this country to obtain his goals. You, as a member of the left, are responsible for this man's quest to "take down the evil empire". I simply ask you to do your own research on this man, while keeping an open and alert mind. Be your own detective; like it or not, this man represents your party; like it or not, this man is largely responsible for the funds coming into the DNC.

Soros is using the left in this country to obtain his goals. You, as a member of the left, are responsible for this man's quest to "take down the evil empire".

Lil' old me taking down the "evil empire"? As if! Such conspiracy-talk is exactly the sort of thing that the IBD and by extension Ed himself are fostering here with regard to Soros. Let me tell you that such money-conspiracies have a vile history and that playing with them is playing with some dangerous stuff.

It's quite a shame for someone who talks about integrity a lot, Captain, and even practices it occasionally, that you've front-paged a such ridiculous and wild article.

George Soros gives money to leftist causes. I'll tell you what, I'd trade him for the Scaife foundation in a heartbeat.

the Foundation commenced funding conservative "causes" in 1973 when Richard Mellon Scaife became the foundation's chairman. During the 1960s, Richard inherited an estimated $200 million from his mother, Sarah. His net personal worth was estimated at $800 million by Forbes magazine, which would make Richard the 38th richest person in the United States. Richard controls the Scaife, Carthage, and Alleghany foundations. In 1993 alone, the Scaife and Carthage foundations donated more than $17.6 million to conservative think tanks.

Some years ago, the Sarah Mellon Scaife Foundation was estimated to be worth $200 million. Since Richard took charge of the foundation in 1973, it began to finance "New Right" causes.

Although Scaife has dedicated vast sums of money to influencing the way the public thinks, he prefers to operate behind the scenes, granting few interviews. When former Wall Street Journal reporter Karen Rothmyer attempted to interview him in 1981, he responded by calling her a “fucking Communist cunt” and telling her to “get out of here.”

Soros is a drop in the ocean compared to this guy: add up the numbers. Anyone who seriously thinks George Soros is a supporter of terrorism needs medical help. Meanwhile, the stuff against ACORN and ACT are hilariously overblown. Republican 501c organizations of 2004 were fined for the same behavior, which was retroactively defined as a violation last year. Meanwhile, about two out of about a hundred cases brought up against ACORN had merit, involving a handful of individuals that no more represent its purpose than Haditha represents the US Army.

And the currency speculation accusations are completely hilarious. This from the party of Wall Street, the guys cheering on rapacious subprime mortgage frauds, credit-card companies and dirty business tactics right and left.

George Soros spent decades funding anti-communist civil society groups in occupied Eastern Europe and the USSR, but you couldn't be bothered to include that, huh, Ed?

A hit piece. Comtemptible.