Captain's Quarters -

Hear, hear.

What's the issue here? That he tapped his foot? That he pled guilty to a misdemeanor? You would have to be homophobic to hold it against him.

The issue is that he's stupid as crap, Dan.

His statement that he never sought legal advice, ignored the cover letter on the plea deal advising him of his right to seek legal advice, and somehow the world should go out of its way to repair his cowardly negligence re: his own welfare.

He's played the public for fools.

On the merits of the charge, I've pissed people off by how strongly I've defended Craig... but in his public actions and in how he behaved post arrest, he's acted like a total fool and I don't see any urgency in keeping an idiot in the Senate representing my viewpoints. Let him resign and hopefully he can patch up his relationship with his wife.

Who should still get an HIV and other STD test if she hasn't already. Nothing to do with being gay. Everything to do with a spouse who is a liar and probably promiscuous with promiscuous strangers.

But being stupid qualifies you to be in politics. doesn't there have to be a real crime somewhere here?

Sex in a public bathroom is deviant and not becoming of US Senator. Even Kennedy, Frank, and Biden keep their dalliances out of the public view.

If he thought the Cops didn't have a case, he should have fought it. He should have been bright enough to get a lawyer to sort this out.

The guy has proven himself to be a pompous fool. With leadership like Craig's, no wonder Sen. Kennedy dances circles around the Republican Senators.

Sorry, Ed, your last two paragraphs are non sequiturs.

I don't know if it's homophobic, but if you think that no one who has the intention of committing adultery should serve in the Senate, that would show a little more consistensy, but if you think they are absurd charges, you can see why anyone with a family would cop to a lesser charge in the hopes of keeping it secret. If this should derail a career, and I'm no fan of his career, or if making a bad decision is your criterion, and not adultery, then there are an awful lot bad decisions made everyday in the Senate.

He'll likely not get re-elected, but his sordid, and as you say, absurd, case hardly justifies demanding his resignation. Probably a number of his Senate votes do, though.

Craig needs to leave, now, before he embarrasses himself any further.

And he should take David Vitter with him.

He's guilty, GinnyD, as a matter of law. Your opinion and my opinion doesn't change that.

He DOESN'T have to be guilty of a more serious crime to resign. He's already said he's going to and I expect him to follow through. Embarrassing oneself profoundly is sufficient to resign and he's already made that call.

I JUST heard on the radio that he will NOT resign, but continue to stay in the senate and fight to clear his name.

I would like to see Republicans boot him from the party.

"I would like to see Republicans boot him from the party."

Agree. And with a size 12, steeltoed boot. That sends him head over heels like a cartoon character.

And with a size 12, steeltoed boot.

But no lube.

Oh man, this is not good for you guys.

I don't mind having a contest of wills, or policy proposals; but I'm going to hate to see us Dems pick up another seat in the Senate (in a year which is already going to be bad for you fellows) b/c of an idiot like Craig not resigning.

And with a size 12, steeltoed boot.

But no lube.

You into rough sex there cowboy? Or does irony escape you?

No. The "issue is" Larry Craig's in Bubba's territory when it comes to lying about the sex that he likes.

Did Craig expect this?

Who knows?

But he's got a game-y game plan just the same.

He'll probably go into hiding for the next few weeks. And, let "recess" take hold in the senate; while people try to get him to make a VERBAL comment.

No siree.

This guy knows everything there is to know about toe tapping. Tap dancing. And, doing what he likes.

So, for Larry Craig's next move ... he hides. Rather than confronts "critics."

Is Arlen Specter still giving him legal advice?

Seems there are a few QUEENS in our senate who've worked Larry Craig into believing he should "stick around."

Bunch of gas bags. ALL. OF. THEM!

What's more embarrassing, getting busted for soliciting sex in a public bathroom, or being a US Senator and claiming not to understand what you're pleading guilty to? Craig should leave, and take Chappaquiddick Ted with him. Along with Stevens & Bryd. And about 86 others.

Well, folks, the man was aggressively soliciting a stranger he could barely see (through those darn narrow stall door gaps), that makes him a PREDATOR.

Oh, and he's already announced his defiance! Seems he recently discovered that he can "work" in the Senate, after all.

H'uh?

Perv or not, the man is a doofus.

Bunch of gas bags. ALL. OF. THEM!

Now there's some rich irony right there!

Idaho'ans are not about to become a Bonkey state.

The problem that Larry Craig presents, though?

Seems like the press was onto him. And, the rumors that he was gay, were there.

That Larry Craig "enjoys" leading the double-life?

Sure. It's part of the "excitement." When you look to have sex where others defecate. Since, it's weird at the start.

And, you know for Oscar Wilde, he went for broke suing, once he was accused of buggering a famous man's son ... The rest just means that getting caught? Oh, at some point he leaves the country and goes to live in Italy.

If you think "sick" entertainment can't be found, you'd be wrong.

And, among the gas bags in the senate ... where "winning" had a lot to do with appealing to people "of faith." The stab wounds went right there! Right into the heart of people who wanted to "believe" ... and they left objective reality outside their learning curves.

But they won't put in a Bonkey!

Some day? We may get to do better with people who eschew both parties; and choose to run as Independents.

Again, we're just at the cusp of change. Whatever looms over the horizon hasn't appeared yet. Mostly because there's NO LEADERSHIP!

You want ideas to travel across a broad spectrum you need to have a powerful voice.

The only weird thing about Larry Craig's personal weird choices, is that he's a republican.

And, if people think Larry Craig causes Idaho to run a Bonkey; then let Larry Craig RUN AS ONE!

Okay.

And, here's some other choices for Larry Craig:

1) He comes out and does a McGreevey

2) He says he's going into rehab

3) He doesn't say a word!

Again, if you could get laid, without even having to open your mouth to make an offer, you'd know something about "keeping silent."

What's it gonna take to get rid of Craig, now?

MILLIONS. He won't budge this somebody pays him off! You don't think there are these types of transactions? Maybe, they can offer him $8-million (like they did Bubba). For a book you could substitute using as a door stop.

No. I kid you, not.

"Before he embarrasses himself any further".

Screw him. Allowing this albatross to remain anywhere near the Republican party proves the party has no interest or plan whatsoever in regaining control of the house and senate, or hanging on to the White House.

Additionally, it provides a window into just how self centered and power hungry Mr.Craig is.

I'm all for giving someone their day in court, but Mr. Craig, through his own mis-management of the situation, has become a serious liabilty that the press will tout with increasing enthusiasm the closer we get to the election. The Paul Begala's are salivating all over themselves, compliments of Craig. It doesn't matter if he is guilty or not. The press will focus on the charges, not the facts. Why is that so tough for them to figure out?

Screw him. Allowing this albatross to remain anywhere near the Republican party proves the party has no interest or plan whatsoever in regaining control of the house and senate, or hanging on to the White House.

Larry Craig is the least of the GOP's worries, dude.

Look, it's not homophobic to believe that Craig is gay or bisexual, but refuses to admit that publicly. There have been longstanding allegations about this, and whether he was technically guilty of a crime in Minnesota, he was obviously engaging in conduct that he cannot control but wants to keep secret. That is not a good recipe for a public servant.

At this point I don't care whether he's guilty or innocent, gay or not gay.

I just want him gone...consistently gone.

starfleet-dude,

He may be the least but gone he'd be one less..........dude

Wow, no compassion for him here at CQ.

This whole incident seems trivial and irrelevant to me.

Tar. Feathers. Larry Craig. Rail.

Some assembly required.

I hope Craig gets a fresh avalanche of e-mails telling him exactly where to go!

Dan,

If you were sitting in a bathroom stall and experienced this kind of behavior, you'd have to be a flaming queer not to be completely revolted:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid271557392?bctid=1155290759

My guess is that based on Craig's resume, his goal is to stay in office unti someone names an international airport after him. Then he can die in peace.

Posted by GinnyD | October 4, 2007 2:43 PM

But being stupid qualifies you to be in politics. doesn't there have to be a real crime somewhere here?

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All serious breaches of conduct and character are not illegal - though many that always were, now are not, but not due to the change of SOCIAL MORES so much as the change of PERVERTS ONTHE BENCHES trying ot legislate from the JUDICIARY BRANCH, thus violating the Constitution, and ruling by OLIGARCHY.

People whithout character have no Constitutional RIGHT to high public office, and NO JOB SECURITY, outside of pleasing their own constitutents.

Larry Craig must be an undercover operative for the Democratic party. By remaining in the Senate he will serve as an embarrassment for Republicans and remind voters that the GOP continues to drown in a cesspool of scandal.

The guy pleads guilty, but says he did nothing wrong. The guy says he is going to resign, then says he will resign if he can't break his plea deal. Now he can't break his plea deal and says he will not resign. The man is in pain and doesn't know where to turn. He is getting horrible advice. Those who claim to be his "friends" are merely political enemies who want his very public humiliation to last through the election cycle.

If Larry Craig has any real friends remaining, I'm sure they are telling him to exit stage right and make peace with his family.

If the crime were identical (soliciting sex from a stranger in a public place) but instead of a male cop in a washroom, Craig had aggressively hit on a female cop in a bar, would the level of outrage be the same?

If not, why not?

This is a blue sky day for us Idahoovians. We'll get that 'wide open' primary may of us have been hoping for. Added benefit--a circus in the Senate Ethics Committee to keep us entertained through the coming cold months.

Posted by skeptical | October 4, 2007 2:48 PM

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He's dead meat and he knows it. He is showing abominable judgement in handling the whole situation and pretending he can "still do his job in office". He cannot. All he can do, now is secrew his own party's efforts in helping his replacement.

THAT is even worse judgement on his part.

He really doesn't have a right to do this.

As many said, if he had gone quietly, after working so hard to get himself caught, with his work credentials, he would have had an easy time getting very very high-paying consulting work.

The more he stirs this pile of manure, the less likely anyone will be to want to hire him after this. He'll be stuck retiring on his paultry Congresional pension.

Posted by Christoph | October 4, 2007 3:06 PM I JUST heard on the radio that he will NOT resign, but continue to stay in the senate and fight to clear his name. I would like to see Republicans boot him from the party. Posted by NoDonkey | October 4, 2007 3:23 PM ************************ "I would like to see Republicans boot him from the party." Agree. And with a size 12, steeltoed boot. That sends him head over heels like a cartoon character.

AGREED! TOTALLY AGREED!!!

If Craig remains he will help ensure the GOP -- currently on life support -- will finally RIP.

Posted by Christoph | October 4, 2007 3:26 PM

"And with a size 12, steeltoed boot."
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But no lube.

But perhaps a nice catapult for the "leg" to put the boot on???

Posted by MarkT | October 4, 2007 4:42 PM

Wow, no compassion for him here at CQ.

This whole incident seems trivial and irrelevant to me.

Ah, Fred Thomspon is the man for you - he considers Bill Clinton's PERJURY to be a "TRIVIAL MATTER" as well.

You grossly overestimate our remaining tolerance for corruption in high office, as does the GOP National Committee.
Very grossly.

It really doesn't matter if Larry Craig broke the law. The fact that he solicited sex in a public bathroom where children might be present is reprehensible. As long as he remains in the Senate he will be a symbol of Republican hypocrisy and scandal. And he will remind many of us on the right why we will likely join James Dobson in abandoning the GOP in 2008.

Posted by filistro | October 4, 2007 5:24 PM

If the crime were identical (soliciting sex from a stranger in a public place) but instead of a male cop in a washroom, Craig had aggressively hit on a female cop in a bar, would the level of outrage be the same?

If not, why not?

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Faithlessness in a husband is faithlessness in the office. A corrupted state of moral values has no boundaries.

We have no more reason to trust him than his wife does.

Ditto McCain, Newt, and Rudi. ET AL.

But perhaps a nice catapult for the "leg" to put the boot on???

Rose, if you found that interesting, you'll love this political cartoon:

Hillary's Pain in the Ass

Ah, bigly... I understand now.

All this furious concern and indignation is for the children!

I don't know why the senate gets an October "recess." I just think one is coming up. So all the gas bags can go home.

I'd also bet that Larry Craig's "good at" silent behaviors. So he will avoid the telephone. And, avoid saying anything else. You might as well just go and watch his "hand gestures.

Meanwhile, BELDAR does an excellent, and quick review of Judge Porter's OPINION. Beldar says it's brilliant!

I just spent the time reading those 27 pages; and, in fact, Judge Porter nails Craig. He's guilty. And, his arguments saying otherwise are less than weak.

Doesn't mean Larry Craig is gonna make a big, splashing exit. heck, He didn't even FLUSH THE TOILET! Sgt. Kasnia had put that in his report, as well.

By the way, there are even time lines present in Judge Porter's OPINION. How much time? About 36 minutes worth. Of which there is quite a record.

Did Larry Craig think it was gonna go this way?

Why, no. Basically, competent people don't show up in DC. He probably expected that he'd get a "pass." "Because he's a senator."

Oh, well. Judge Porter blows holes in that reasoning, too.

And, as Beldar says; there's no room now for appeal.

Because Judge Porter closed all the doors that Craig was hoping were hanging off their hooks.

When it comes to Craig, it's good to remember how he DIDN'T SHOW UP AT WORK, when Congress began its session (after summer recess).

Now? You expect him to sign papers? He seems handicapped by the idea he can't be a senator, once he signs off. Instead? He'll be Larry Craig. Non-homosexual. But looking for sex when he's away from home. And, ready to convince anyone who wants to watch him make "hand signals."

He did this to himself, folks! He could'a left. It would have ended. Instead? Just like the GRIFTER, who waved his fingers saying "I didn't have sex with that woman," we've got Craig. With a long, long history of having his staff protecting his proclivities.

And, those in Idaho? TIME TO GROW UP!

Stop picking turds like this, when you're looking over various candidates. Honestly, folks. You can do better!

We know who the stinkers are among the gas bags.

Keep the pressures on them all!

Filistro, I have tried to raise my children with Christian morals. I don't want them walking into a public bathroom and witnessing deviant behavior.

Larry Craig solicited sex in a public place, he dishonored his wife and family, lied to a police officer, and now dishonors his word. He assured his Republican colleagues and his constituents in Idaho that he would step down if his guilty plea was not overturned. Now, he changes his mind. His word means nothing. And according to my Christian values, one's word and honor are important.

What kind of example is that for my children? I don't my seven year old to have some pervert making sexual overtures to him while he goes to the bathroom. Senator Craig is a threat to children in airports everywhere.

Speaking of which, have y'all seen the RNC '08 logo, unveiled today?

It's an elephant bending over above the word "Minneapolis." I kid you not.

http://www.gopconvention2008.com/media/logo/

Sigh... it's all so unfair, isn't it? I mean, you start one teeny little pre-emptive war, and then everything just goes wrong.

filistro: If the crime were identical (soliciting sex from a stranger in a public place) but instead of a male cop in a washroom, Craig had aggressively hit on a female cop in a bar, would the level of outrage be the same?

No, because hitting on chicks in a bar is, well, NORMAL. Now, if he was lurking outside the ladies room and trying to hit on them, that would be (yech) creepy. There's a time and a place for everything, and the men's room is NOT the place to try to (apparently) pick up a partner to kill a few minutes while waiting for the flight to DC.

Posted by Christoph | October 4, 2007 6:01 PM

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Yes I did! hehehehehe

filistro,

Hit "POST" too soon...

Let me add to my previous comment:

Much of the outrage over Craig isn't that he was apparently cruising the mens room for a casual sex partner. Speaking for myself, the real problem is what he did when he got caught: try to bluster, then plead guilty, then try to get out of it; first say he's going to resign, then crawfish. He's acted the part of a total buffoon and demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is unfit to be a senator.

Hmmm... Come to think of it, this sort of behavior seems to be REQUIRED for members of Congress. Disgraceful collection of cheats, liars, crooks, perverts and wardheelers...

Posted by filistro | October 4, 2007 6:02 PM

Ah, bigly... I understand now.

All this furious concern and indignation is for the children!

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Obviously, you are incapable of comprehending the part about it being A CHARACTER ISSUE, and CORRUPTED VALUES ABOUT THE OFFICE HE HOLDS.

And yes, the part about the CHILDREN does make this event much worse than an event in a BAR.

That ANYONE would expect the VOTERS to simply IGNORE it is totally reprehensible - but understandable in a CRIMINAL ELEMENT who loves company.

doc, it pains me to say this because I've been growing so fond of you lately :-) but I think you're wrong.

The outrage over Craig is ENTIRELY because he was caught "playing for the other team".... and then refused to fall on his sword for the good of the party.

Sure, the guy's behavior was weasley and unbecoming, but no more so than Vitter or any other of the unmanly lowlifes who cling to their jobs through thick and thicker.

Craig's has a 96% conservative voting record for 17 years, but the minute this happened he didn't have a single friend in the GOP. If his colleagues had treated him better, he might have been a bit more malleable. Now he's got his back up, and he'll stay and embarrass them to the bitter end.

Bad, bad management. Just terrible. If the GOP were a stock right now, I'd be selling and then sitting on the cash for a few years. Truly.

Posted by bayam | October 4, 2007 5:07 PM

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My guess is that based on Craig's resume, his goal is to stay in office unti someone names an international airport after him. Then he can die in peace.

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Oakland.

We will try to do better, Carol. I hope we can start with Robert Vasquez, or someone else from here. We have some options.

Craig can either go back to the ranch in Idaho, a ranch on which he filed bankruptcy years ago, and never worked a day on in his life, or he can stay where he lives now, a boat basin somewhere around D.C. ,I have heard. Or maybe, San Francisco...after all, Al Gore just moved there.

They can talk about old times.

filistro,

To know me is to love me. Or to throw heavy, sharp objects; one or the other...

Anyway, my opinion is that part of being "conservative" politically is having standards. Those standards include (1) not acting like a moron; (2) taking responsibility for your actions, and; (3) keeping your word. Craig has not only violated these standards, he has done so with breathtaking arrogance. I am not interested in keeping such a person in office just because he has a "good" voting record.

Aside from my belief in high standards, there is also the political angle. How can we conservatives / Republicans convince the public that we will be responsible stewards of the government when our elected officials act in such disgraceful ways? As much as I despise the filthy dems and sneer at their hypocrisy, it hits uncomfortably close to the mark when they point out the hypocrisy of the party of "family values" keeping a man like Craig (or Vitter, for that matter) in office. In short, it's a question of trust and accountability. We know through long and revolting experience that the filthy dems not only refuse to clean their own house, they LIONIZE the crooks and degenerates in their odious ranks. We should and must show that we are better than they are. It SHOULDN'T be hard... but morons like Craig keep gumming up the works.

Can you imagine the courts in Minnesota if the judge had allowed him to withdraw his plea? They'd be totally overrun by every jailhouse lawyer out there filing pro se motions...me too, your honor, me too!

I don't know what's more laughable, that Craig thought this might work, that he's decided to withdraw his resignation and stay in the Senate or that there are people commenting here who find it more likely than not that his seat will end up on the Democrat's side of the ledger.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

I agree that Vitter is just as disgraceful as Craig and should be shown the door. But at least Vitter didn't commit a sin that innocent bystanders could have witnessed. Perhaps many of us are more outraged by Craig's behavior because our sense of safety -- going into a public bathroom but expecting privacy once we enter the stall -- has been shaken. Call me naive, but I don't expect to be propositioned when I sit down for a constitutional. At least Vitter conducted his dirty business in the dark and dank quarters of a brothel, out of sight from the masses.

I'm glad he's staying for one reason and one reason only. If this guy were a democrat, not one congressman, democrat or republican, would be screaming for him to leave. NOT ONE! ANYONE who says thinks otherwise is oblivious to the past 40 years of congress. As far as I'm concerned, enough of the double standard, I don't care if a republican gets caught with George Micheals Bolo tie stuck in his fly, I don't give a damn. He should stay and tell the Dimocrats to just kiss his ass! I really believe the lefties who have no moral fiber whatsoever enjoy seeing righties flog themselves over the fact that they're not perfect amd they use that for political advantage. It has to stop, when whore house Barney Frank is ask to pack his bags, then I'll reconsider, but I'm not holding my breath!

Ten week panic attack?

That's nothing.

My first mate is in the midst of a fifty year panic attack.

Well, Craig's turning out to be a deviant, in more ways than one!

As to his crime, by attempting to retrieve his "guilty Plea," Judge Porter made absolutely sure to close the door, tight, on an appeal.

I have no idea what Craig was thinking as the clock's been running. Because he's been thinking about this since it happened, on June 11, 2007.

And, for the arresting officer, the time he spent in the can came to something like 36-minutes.

As to the "knowledge" of "what he did," when he pled guilty, NOW that Judge Porter reviews the FACTS, if you read this opinion, you'd have no doubt. Guilty as charged.

Inside of Judge Porter's Opinion, you also find the LAW. Whereby public spaces are kept free of lewd, perverted behaviors.

The ACLU tried to get Craig off on a "fighting words," free speech "brief." The judge dismissed it. Because Craig used NO WORDS. And, yes, what he was after was obvious. Including looking at the officer, who was sitting on the john, for a full two minutes. And, where the officer noticed his "eyes were blue."

UP ahead? There's a congressional recess. Dunno why. But I'm sure Craig will disappear into it. And, then? Won't come back right away, either. Lots of these turkeys are senators. But they don't show up. (You think McCain is doing a lot of "showing up?" ... these days?)

That Larry Craig made things worse for himself? Yup.

But that doesn't translate into being a bad thing. Given how rudderless and leaderless congress has been for years and years. Just a place for gas bags.

And, to change that, we need to address how people vote. Oddly enough I could care less about Dobson. I guess he misses Lyndon LaRouche? But there have always been fringe parties for fringe politics. Nothing knew.

What became "new" is that both parties got overtaken by hacks.

It remains among the reasons that creeps like Murtha, for instance, can still spell disaster to others. Just because he knows his way around pork.

While the whole name-calling gig is falling into disrepute.

Not a bad thing; since they're all gas bags, that a little of the luster is falling off their credentials.

We should get used to this, too.

Credentials just ain't what they used to be.

And up ahead? At least the GOP stands a better shot at finding great LEADERSHIP! But to do so, also means swimming with the MAINSTREAM. Leaving the swamp people behind on both shores.

Oh, Bennett, having read BELDAR's review of Judge Porter's Opinion, what's happened is that Judge Porter was THOROUGH.

The door for appeal, per Beldar is set at a "generous" 1%.

That the Captain things Larry Craig says one thing; and then does the opposite ... hence, he's "quitting" in 10 days. Dunno if I'd accept that bet.

Larry Craig knows he's hurting the GOP! And, like a man well trained to go about collecting PORK, he's looking for someone to come along... "and make it worth his while."

Wanting "something" in exchange for his leaving, I hope someone offers him Barney Frank's private toilet seat.

Watching these dudes looking for "exit strategies," is nothing more than watching some greedy animal, feed.

But by now Larry Craig's staff, used to covering for their boss, are probably now out seeking employment, elsewhere.

Some jobs are just more secure than others.

By the time Larry Craig actually goes home? Nobody will be left at the office to bid him a "fare-thee-well."

On the other hand? He'd have to stay out of toilets for at least a year. Or else the "penalties" to his plea kicks in. That up's the ante on his fine. Doubling it. And, puts him in jail for 10 days. Just soliciting at another toilet, where he's caught.

I'm sure this weighs on him as he decides what to do next. We might as well guess that other gas bags in congress are none too pleased with this jerk. And, if nothing "else," Craig can't shut the door on people following him, ahead. To see if they can "get pictures." He's recognizable enough. Even if all he was doing was walking around Ikea. You think I'm kidding?

Heck, think of all the strangers with cell phones.

Posted by bigly | October 4, 2007 8:08 PM

I agree that Vitter is just as disgraceful as Craig and should be shown the door. But at least Vitter didn't commit a sin that innocent bystanders could have witnessed. Perhaps many of us are more outraged by Craig's behavior because our sense of safety -- going into a public bathroom but expecting privacy once we enter the stall -- has been shaken. Call me naive, but I don't expect to be propositioned when I sit down for a constitutional. At least Vitter conducted his dirty business in the dark and dank quarters of a brothel, out of sight from the masses.

I agree completely. And my concern very much includes the children, seems like every time I hear of men in restrooms who lose control of their better judgement, 98% of the time, some child has died as a result of it. And most of the time, I have a child about the same age as the child, and a couple of times, we had been in the same general location within a few weeks or a couple of months.

I don't like perverts thinking they can use public restrooms any way they please - those facilities were designed for FAMILIES doing business in the area.

Craig has shown how much THAT concerns him - look what he did to his own family, for his lack of self control.

Our highest seats are for our BEST. NOT for our LOWEST.

When they reveal themselves as the lowest, there is nothing that we owe THEM. They have betrayed their families, first, and the nation, as well.

Posted by Bikerken | October 4, 2007 8:25 PM ... He should stay and tell the Dimocrats to just kiss his ass! I really believe the lefties who have no moral fiber whatsoever enjoy seeing righties flog themselves over the fact that they're not perfect amd they use that for political advantage. It has to stop, when whore house Barney Frank is ask to pack his bags, then I'll reconsider, but I'm not holding my breath!

You are right it has to stop - but NOT by us keeping THIS low-life cretan! NO WAY ON THIS GREEN EARTH!

INSTEAD, as you said, NOT EVEN THE REPUBLICANS squawk when a DIM is caught - what has to change is the GOP has to start drumming until the DIMS' bad eggs are thrown out, as well, and shut everything down and just hit that steady drumbeat until that bad egg is gone and if it is a criminal matter, that he or she goes to trial.

THAT is the way to stop it - NOT BY SINKING TO THEIR LEVEL. That sinking to their level is what is driving HALF THE BASE out of the GOP, right now!

If he is gay and is arrested for toe-tapping would not he have a case for screaming "Hate Crime against Gays"?

I agree with Bikerken. As a new member of the Republican party in 2004 I am tired of the way Republicans are so quick to crush their own for the tiniest little failing usually having something to do with sex.

I mean how come the Christian Coalition isn't bashing all those failing Christians who will vote for pro-abortion politicans just because they'll protect Social Security or give them free health care?

And what about all those failing Christians who support the massive Illegal Immigration Slave Trade at the same time supercede laws by harboring previously deported illegal immigrants inside their churches?

And how come some Christians like Jimmy Carter are treated like saints because they believe Israel is an oppressive state whose Zionists need to be eliminated while other Christians like George Bush are demonized as a redneck right-wing fanatics for supporting ally Israel and their God-given right right to exist as a Democracy?

If as ted in bed says that Kennedy had enough sense to keep his dalliances out of public view why do I have a picture of him bare backside upside with bare female legs completing the picture? Yeah, there's such a picture of him in the book by Edward Klein titled "The Kennedy Curse". One can hardly get any more flagrante delicto than that but what the hay, it's a KENNEDY./s

Here's another outcome: Larry Craig's face is famous, now. If he's walking about Ikea, thinking he's looking for a homosexual act in one of their men's bathrooms; whose to say someone with a cell phone camera doesn't snap a picture?

If you read Judge Porter's OPINION; it states that Larry Craig's GUILT PLEA still applies.

It contains a hook. It contains 10 days in jail. An, over $1000 in fines. Of course, he's only had to show "good faith" by producing about $600.

BUT. IF. LARRY CRAIG. Gets caught, again, soliciting sex in a men's toilet ... THE OLD CHARGE KICKS IN!

Call it a "one year ticket."

You think Craig can stay out of trouble that long?

I doubt it.

I also don't know if his staff is desperately clinging on. Or they are aware he's gonna fall. And, they need a more secure job to pay their rents.

You just never know what's going on behind the scenes.

Just like you don't know this when you go to the opera. Or to to see a play.

There's a world backstage that doesn't play by the "script."

The other thing I noticed? Larry Craig got himself up on the #2 spot on Mitt Romney's campaign. He was looking to "sail into the sunset" on a successful ticket. He's been bounced.

Now? He's looking to be paid off. Rather than just skulking away, empty handed. Or just with his pension checks, ahead. Remember, he is 66. Eminently eligible for retirement. Not that he's gonna get such a great party. Even the gay guys are gonna want to miss it.