Captain's Quarters -

Have they no sweat shops in PA where they can send these anklebiters?

America's 'shinning light on the hill' is being dimmed by her own self-indulgent, narcissistic citzens.

Wasn't it the Reagan doctrine which brought about the neo-conservative movement who helped to establish the Bush Doctrine. When the war hits Americans at home for the third time, they will regret having extinquished the light on the hill.
We haven't even begun to fight and we are already at the point of giving up.

BDS is a contagious disease.

Another argument in favor of spontaneous vigilantiism. There's nothing like a mild concussion to encourage people to reassess their behavior. Nothing gets my fur up as quick as 'activists' bullying children.

This is infuriating. If I had been there and some "anti-war" goon had screamed at my child through a bullhorn that "your parents are killing you" I would have beat the living *~!@# out of him and shoved the bullhorn down his commie throat.

These people need to take a long, hard, look at themselves. Of course, that would assume that they were capable of introspection to begin with.

As we read in Luke 23:34, a wise man said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."

What are these people going to do when President Bush is no longer in office? What if a Democrat wins? Will they show respect for the office and behave like adults? I doubt it, and we are seeing the signs already with the way the extreme left is turning on the Democrats for not doing their bidding.

Do you think these people take time out from their very visible protesting to go vote?

Leftists coddle terrorists, but by golly they'll take on the 4 year olds.

What a disgrace.

The office not the person. Let's see how far that goes when HRC is the "OFFICE" holder. So in that context, would you all respectively allow The Iranian President, to visit the same center if he was invited. After all he is a President too? Well? I don't think we've seen derangement yet.I can't imagine when the Mrs. becomes President. I still have seen more Anti-HRC stickers than the GOP's "candidat dujour". Where's Ronnie's clone?

Truth is stranger than fiction. Parts of this country are quite literally nuts. One keeps trying to deny that BDS could be real, but then episodes like this just revalidate the proof of the pathology.

Countdown to apples-oranges Clinton years anecdote from loyal opposition in 10...9...8...

Heh. Well done, the fly-man/bong boy. Just as I was writing my post, you jumped the gun. Quite impressive.

Don't like it? Then beat their candidates. People need to stop losing focus; spewing moralistic outrage at the shocking, appalling, repugnant, unhinged, whatever you want to call it behavior of your political opponents gets you nothing but self-satisfaction at having vented. Win elections and really beat them.

I personally think it's more of an issue with denial, than actually being deranged. I fully accept the election results and know what the consequences are involving my participation as a voter. Anyway, does anyone have any statistics of the actual number of these deranged folks. Who exactly is their main spokesperson? Do they have partners or elected board members that are accountable to the deranged collective?

No takers on the Iranian President visiting the same daycare center?
He is the President of a sovereign nation isn't he? Well? It's about the office right?

Mental disorders aren't typically well-organized fly-man. They're called "disorders" after all.

Well according to these folks it doesn't look like there is a descrition of this BDS thing. Look for your self, I can't find anything.
http://www.nmha.org/go/get-info/

I drove by them and their out of Iraq signs when I happened to pass through the square in Lancaster Tuesday night. It gave me a good chance to explain the term useful idiots to my children.

bongboy: The office not the person. Let's see how far that goes when HRC is the "OFFICE" holder. So in that context, would you all respectively allow The Iranian President, to visit the same center if he was invited. After all he is a President too? Well? I don't think we've seen derangement yet.I can't imagine when the Mrs. becomes President. I still have seen more Anti-HRC stickers than the GOP's "candidat dujour". Where's Ronnie's clone?

This is a blatant effort to change the subject with a pair of unrelated hypotheticals. However, I'll bite.

1. The Hilldabeast: You may recall that many of us on the right DESPISED her loathesome husband when he was in office (still do, actually). However, I'm not aware of Republicans shouting down toddlers who were singing to greet the president when he visited their town. If the Evil One becomes president (choke), I'm sure that you'll see LOTS of criticism from the right in the form of letter to the editor, blog posts, etc. I DON'T think you'll see such thuggish behavior as what that pack of libtards pulled in Lancaster.

2. I realize that you probably think of Ahamdenijad as a warm and cuddly guy who's just been demonized by the eeeeeevil Bush cabal, but to the rest of us, he's a terrorist. Inviting him to an American day care would be... unbelievable. However, that's not the point. If somebody WAS mad enough to invite him to a US daycare, I don't think you'd see conservatives screaming at the children.

Come to think of it, where were the masses of rabid conservatives screaming at people when Ahmadenijad WAS here? There were lots of protests in papers and blogs, but I don't recall reading about conservatives engaging in such childish and thuggish behavior. That seems to be a predominately lefty province.

Now, perhaps you'd like to stick to the topic at hand and comment on what actually DID happen in Lancaster, instead of spinning fantasies about what you think MIGHT happen in some hypothetical case. Do you think the lefties in Lancaster were right to do what they did? That they were just exercizing their First Amendment rights? Do their actions give you a warm, fuzzy glow of satisfaction? Is there even the slightest corner of your poisonous lefty soul that harbors even a little outrage over the spectacle of adults shouting down little children?

Or does your hatred of Bush override whatever tiny moral values you actually have?

Maybe lefties can throw blood or dogs**t on the children next time. You know: to REALLY show how much the president doesn't deserve our support.

The Derangement syndrome began long before Bush came to office. I remember when my own mayor at the time, Rudy Guiliani, denied tax-funded government money for Brooklyn Museumn's "Christ Piss" of course all the tolerant, open-minded enlightened NY Liberals condemned Rudy as a Nazi Hilter.

The Deranged have never found a way to moveon.org their need to rule the world!

Flying Bong: I think the point about it being "about the office," refers to the office of the presidency of....wait,....oh yeah - THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Perhaps a few of us take the position that that particular and unique "office," (considering you know, our nationality and all that) in terms of the respect it deserves, and whether an invite should be given by a kids school located in AMERICA, can be distinguished from the how we can choose to view the office, of say....The office of the Chancellorship of Germany, circa 1940, or the office of the Iranian presidency, circa...right now.

But if you really think that if we are going to play Hail to the Chief to our President, we should also play if for President Imanutjob that is of course, your opinion.

"Let's see how far that goes when HRC is the "OFFICE" holder." When a bunch of conservative Republicans get on bull horns and shout down kids at a day care center during a visit, be sure to let me know, okay? And I'll condemn it, instead of evading the issue by trying to find examples of Libs doing something similar.

Oh, and in terms of anti-Hillary bumper stickers? -Snort....If the Guiness Book of World Records would declare a winner for total number of bumper stickers containing hate, venom and derision, W would win it hands down.

Wow,
The BDS expressed by syn and few other pitiful whackers is disturbing.

thanks for your replies. My point is Capn'Ed used as his original framing a supposition that there actually exists group of quantifiable participants that have a particular mental disorder that causes them to respond to the President using unhinged behavior. Is it ok for someone who is editorializing on a actual event to characterize the players on one side with an anecdotal, urban myth style generalization? It's his blog and his opinions, but is his premise factual? Also, regardless of the distinctions between President Ireallyneedajob, and our country's Dear Leader the point is still the same, respect the office right? We shall see how far that nobel mantra goes with the next election. Also I just thought Ed could have just mentioned the rude and indefensible behavior without going into conspiracy hyperbole. Oh, and as far as GOP members shouting down children, I forgot is Fred Phelps a democrat? The point about anti HRC stickers vs, W ,she hasn't even won the nomination yet.

RE: the fly-man/bong boy (October 5, 2007 7:22 AM)

I'd suggest you read Dr. Sanity's take of BDS. It would probably be characterized as a maladaptive defense strategy that some use to regain a sense of control they think they have lost. Is it documented formally as BDS? No. It's manifestation speaks to a much larger psychological mechanism that would include a much wider array of behaviors. Who knows what else would serve as the proper stimulus. All we can observe is that certain people respond to anything Bush like an alligator to a weary doe. The target is just so tempting that it cannot skip the opportunity even if it's full and regardless of others in the neighborhood. The neurons just keep firing to the point of reflex.

Fortunately the critters are so egregious and observably ugly that most avoid them and alert their peers so that they choose another path.

Sorry, Fred Phelps is a democrat. My bad. I think I'll drop my pursuit and go back to work.Cheers. My apologies for my sloppy research.

dope fiend,

"I forgot is Fred Phelps a democrat?"

Fred Phelps would get the living crap beat out of him if he didn't have police protection at his military funeral protests. He's not a Democrat, he's not a Republican - Fred Phelps is a drooling lunatic.

Like the idiots who screamed at the kids. I'm with HA, if one of these reds screamed at my kid with a bullhorn, it would be walking around with a bullhorn for a colon.

And your moral equivalence is at best, deranged. Or do you think all Presidents (President of the PTA, President of the KKK, President of WalMart, President Moonbat) are the same?

RE: the fly-man/bong boy (October 5, 2007 8:03 AM)

This I can't let go, either:

"Oh, and as far as GOP members shouting down children, I forgot is Fred Phelps a democrat?"

Do you think you'll find ONE reader or poster here that supports the Phelps nut and legal opportunist? That is your representative sample of the Right of center?

Please, stay away from statistics if ever confronted with 'em. You'll break your abacus.

Your correction is noted. Nevertheless, conservatives hate that man with a passion. A deserved passion and not some variant of BDS.

As infuriating and reprehensible as this is, it could be turned into a great good.

This is opportunity begs us to teach children about the difference between reasoned argument and bullying with slogans. It is also a chance to teach them to examine those claims and slogans.

The moonbats have plowed the furrow for the seeds of their defeat in the next generation. Let's please take it!

I hope Bush hears about this and visits the school.

This episode also reminds us of how we've over lawyered our way into a rude society.

Time was, if some jackass screamed at kids with a bullhorn or performed some similar affront to all common decency, he'd get the crap beat out of him.

As he should. And that would be it.

But along come the lawyers, and then the poor guy who performed a public service, gets sued for pain suffering, emotional trauma, etc. And cities have to dole out money for police protection for these imbeciles.

Great solution. Now we have clowns like Mr. Bullhorn here (and the aforementioned Phelps), forging entire careers out of being a professional public pests.

This is the society we've built. What progress.

No Donkey,

Calling Fred Phelps a drooling lunatic is an insult to drooling lunatics everywhere! ;-)

I'm not sure that there are words in the English language to adequately describe what that sorry excuse for a human being actually is. F***ing a**hole, though a bit understated, probably comes closest to the mark.

As for Phelps being a democrat... I take a backseat to nobody in my detestation of the party of the jackasses, but even I wouldn't associate him with them.

The silver lining is that democrats have decided to make the spirit of the Wellstone Funeral a way of life.

America is repulsed by the uncivilized behavior that is increasingly coming to define the once-great democrat party.

No, I don't have to be nice to Imanutjob, because I actually do NOT respect the office of president of a nation who has repeatedly declared war us and violates international treaties and norms. In the same vein I do not "respect the office" of various other heads of state who don't deserve it. However, if you believe in this little experiment in democracy we call the United States of America, you SHOULD respect the office of President. After all, whoever holds the office was elected by the people, whether you voted for them or not.

What did the school officials and teachers who organized the singing event do?

Did they turn this into an educational opportunity? Or they just turned the children over for "counseling"?

doc,

Phelps is an island unto himself.

But he has run as a Democrat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

He and his entire family, all the screaming, dancing little pieces of feces he brings along with him, are lawyers (although he has been disbarred).

They are set to sue for millions if one precious hair of theirs is disturbed.

That's why when he and his little band go into small towns and do their ghoulish demonstrations, they never get what they deserve.

Those little towns know that they will be sued into bankruptcy if Fred Phelps or anyone in his family is assaulted.

Pathetic. There is something dangerously wrong with a society that protects a group of people who are shouting hateful insults to widows, to parents and to children who just lost a loved one.

It's not "tolerant" to allow this, it's not "adult" to allow this, it's gutless, it's cowardly and it's stupid. The law is an ass.

Ummm, I read the article, looked at the photos & video. Where ARE the kids? The videographer and photographer didn't see fit to include any shots of the antis & the kids? 2 or 3 dozen kids vs 150 protesters? Seems to me that would have been one heck of a shot...

These idiots first amendment rights are protected by the Brave and True US military( who they actually loath), and our second second amendment rights, which it looks like, more each day, we may need to exercise.

Be ever vigilant it may be approaching time to lock and load.

Attacking children and outright attacks on private citizens of the United States by elected officials in the halls of congress is way past the line.

Bong boy, you're down to stems and seeds; I'm not going to bother responding when others have done so so ably.

We really should thank the lefties for this. They taught the kids a valuable lesson - people who oppose the war and the President are big loud meanies who like to scare little kids.

Tempting as it might be, I wouldn't beat the living cr@p outta the moron, nor would I put the bullhorn where he keeps his head. Wouldn't be prudent.

It would set a bad example for the kids, meeting speech (even lunatic, rude, offensive speech) with violence. Offensive speech should be countered with more speech, remember?

So I think I'd just put my own bullhorn to his ear and hit the horn button. That qualifies as "more speech," wouldn't you agree?

This is not BDS. This is battlespace preparation as Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) says. By making the political situation so toxic, they have a chilling effect on those who would oppose their policies. I would expect that the next time GWB visits a school, the students will not be brought out to sing.

Calling it BDS seems to excuse it as a mental disorder--as if they can't help themselves. They can, and they know exactly what they are doing. It is hate, but worse than that, it is politics.

I've always been somewhat surprised that they weren't immediately arrested for disturbing the peace and/or other similar violations. I'd certainly be throwing them in jail at the earliest opportunity if I was in position to do so. Freedom of speach wouldn't enter into it, as their words and behavior VERY clearly fall under the category of "fighting words" jurisprudence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Derangement_Syndrome

How nurturing and caring those protestors were. A bullhorn against small children. Way to go you imbecils, you just traumatized a whole class of little children. If that makes you feel like you did a righteous thing with that truth to power feldergarp, then you are absofreakingly sick.

A bullhornoscopy would be too kind for you dregs of humanity.

If you read the entire story, the protestors drove in from Philadelphia, which is obviously not in Lancaster County, then shouted "Go Home" to the President.

Seems to me, the protestors need to go back to stink town instead.

Also, the protestors further argued with an Iraq War vet and Bush supporter, who brought his daughter there to see the President.

Every time I think these people have hit rock bottom, they sink lower.

This situation shows everyone who the children really are... ;)

That pack of morons ruined what should have been a pleasant life memory for those children and should be ashamed of themselves, except that they feel no concept of shame--that word is not in the Leftist lexicon--except when shouted out as an empty shibboleth, that is. Leftist dogma asserts that good manners and etiquette (such as not ruining a child's performance before the President of the United States) are tools used by the "patriarchy/oppressors/capitalists/whatever the Leftist slogan of the day is" to keep "The People" down by reinforcing "archaic bonds of deference". In reality, of course, the Left hates etiquette and manners because, in order to exercise them, the person doing so has to put someone other than themselves first. Etiquette and good manners are not about "Me...Me...Me!", they are about putting the other person (not the post-modern Other") first--something that is unacceptable in the childish, narcissistic, selfish, world view of the modern Leftist.

To answer an earlier question, I would respect the right of a future (Heaven forbid) President Hillary Clinton to have schoolchildren sing to her; and I would allow my children who go to that school to sing for her and I would attend and applaud the performance of my child and the other children and, would listen quietly and respectfully as the President spoke because I respect the office of the President. And no, I would not allow my child to sing at a ceremony honoring Iran's Thug in Chief, just as I would not allow her to sing at a recital honoring Joseph Stalin or Che Guevera--for reasons other posters have already outlined.

I really do have to get Diana West's book because so much of what I'm seeing bears her thesis out--we really have become a nation of children--especially when our children behave better than the so-called grown ups!

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No doubt they were hired union thugs from Philly. Same guys who beat up Don and Teri Adams while they were peacefully protesting Bill Clinton in 1998. Too bad these losers can't use their intimidation skills to chase the gangbangers and murderers out of their own city, which is, ahem, completely run by Democrats.

"Too bad these losers can't use their intimidation skills to chase the gangbangers and murderers out of their own city, which is, ahem, completely run by Democrats."

Not that that has ANYTHING to do with the fact that the city is an economic basket case, the public schools are hell holes or that crime rates are far, far too high.

It's pretty similar to a great many other inner cities.

Coincidentally, also run by Democrats.

Interesting how Democrats escape any sort of blame or scrutiny, for running our inner cities into the ground.

But not surprising.

Shows you how far some people will go!

Last week Senator Byrd got another youtube moment when he had to suspend proceedings during Peter Pace's testimony.

The Code Pink gross-O's exhibited their free speech throughout the 3 hour proceedings.

When Byrd had had enough he actually got into a screaming match with them! (LOL/ROTFL moment for me!)

The highlight was when this dirty looking Pinko screamed,

"More Sex in the White House, Get Out of Iraq!"

Under each arm she held a very young kid, on top of her head was a huge pink crown.

Time and place people. Time and place.

Another heartless moment from people eager to rush your kids into adulthood.

I'm starting to think the most important divide in our country isn't right vs. left, it's polite vs. rude.

"Win elections and really beat them."

How about we win the election and then really beat them?

I'll take the a$$h*le with the bullhorn. That bullying twerp will be makin' a different kinda noise when I get through with him/her/it.

To the fly-man/bong boy andAnonymousDrivel

Your postings are some of the most inane, intellectually indefensible, postings ever posted on the 'net.

You both clearly are suffering a very excessive case of BDS yourself to think your comments in any way intelligent, or even remotely rational.

The Iranian President is not the President of the USA. The Iranian President, a former terrorist who took American diplomats hostage in 1979, and is a murderous thug whose regime oppresses it’s people. A regime that routinely executes homosexuals just for being homosexual. That treats women as men’s cattle.

To suggest that he has an equal right to visit a US Day care as THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA is just too intellectually vacuous to be taken seriously by any rational adult.

RE: MNJohnnie (October 8, 2007 5:21 AM)

Do you have a reading comprehension disability? Read what I posted again. Please.