October 16, 2007

Another Liberal Fantasy Hits Hard Reality

Earlier today, the port side of the blogosphere erupted in righteous indignation as reports that Air America radio host Randi Rhodes got mugged began to swirl. Many bloggers started blaming a nameless conservative mugger, and then began extending the indictment to the entire conservative movement. It served their prejudices to think that conservative meanies would lay in wait for Rhodes just to keep her from speaking Truth to Power, etc etc etc.

The only fly in the ointment? Rhodes never got mugged at all (via Michelle Malkin):

Air America radio host Randi Rhodes is temporarily off the air, but claims she was brutally attacked near her Manhattan apartment are bogus, her lawyer and a police source said today.

Fellow host Jon Elliott claimed on the liberal radio network that Rhodes had been mugged while walking her dog, Simon, on Sunday night. Elliot, who said Rhodes lost several teeth in the attack, waxed about a possible conspiracy.

"Is this an attempt by the right-wing, hate machine to silence one of our own?" he asked on the air, according to Talking Radio, a blog. "Are we threatening them? Are they afraid that we’re winning? Are they trying to silence intimidate us?"

A police source said Rhodes never filed a report and never claimed to be the victim of a mugging. Cops from Manhattan's 17th Precinct called her attorney, who told them Rhodes was not a victim of a crime, the source said.

So what are we to make of this?

1. Air America lies, even when stories involve their own personnel. No one thought to give Randi a call to see how she was doing before Elliot decided to air his report? And no one thought to do so afterwards? The police ended up calling to see why no one reported the incident to them. That's just marvelous journalistic ethics.

2. Anyone who thinks that bigotry has no place in the liberal mindset has -- once again -- just received a material lesson to the contrary. Even without knowing anything about the attacker, several bloggers just decided that it had to be a politically motivated assault by a conservative. That's not leaping to conclusions, that's flying at jet speed to Paranoialand.

3. How long do you think it will take for these same bloggers to offer an apology -- one not accompanied by a litany of rationalizations about how mean conservatives are, and how it was impossible not to convict an entire class of people for an imaginary crime? Longer than the next time they trot out an argument for innocent-until-proven-guilty for the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, I'd bet.

What an embarrassment, especially for Air America. They have once again demonstrated why no one listens to them, and it has nothing to do with the Fairness Doctrine. It has everything to do with credibility. They can't even do fact-checking with their colleagues, let alone anywhere else.

Addendum: I'm sorry to hear that Rhodes injured herself in a fall, and hope she feels better soon. I'm glad that she apparently still has all her teeth, too.

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Comments (74)

Posted by Bob Hawkins | October 16, 2007 1:28 PM

You have to admit that it's chilling and Orwellian that the 17th Precinct apparently monitors Air America for evidence of crimes.

Posted by Chuck Adkins | October 16, 2007 1:40 PM

Anyone who thinks that bigotry has no place in the liberal mindset has -- once again -- just received a material lesson to the contrary.

Trust me, that Bigotry is on the right too.

Stop smearing and stick to the damn issue.

Posted by syn | October 16, 2007 1:44 PM

Has Air America ever returned the money they stole from Gloria Wise's charity for children and eldery up in the Bronx?

Or did they just claim to return the money for the benefit of appearing like they're not thieves.

Posted by Mike M. | October 16, 2007 1:47 PM

Why does this whole incident smell to me like a bad publicity stunt intended to try and boost ratings?

In any event, I guess it's a positive that they didn't accuse President Bush of being the mugger.

Posted by NoDonkey | October 16, 2007 1:53 PM

So if a drunk talk show host on a station no one listens to, falls over in Manhattan, does she make a sound?

Posted by swabjockey05 | October 16, 2007 1:56 PM

Do Donk...only if it's the sound of her teeth jingling down the stairs...

Posted by PackerBronco | October 16, 2007 2:07 PM

Chuck Adkins wrote:

Stop smearing and stick to the damn issue.

And just what is the damn issue Chuck?

Posted by NoDonkey | October 16, 2007 2:08 PM

Swab,

Next liberal crusade - Universal Dental Insurance.

Posted by SGT Ted | October 16, 2007 2:17 PM

Whats the problem Chuck? Are you mad a leftist got caught telling lies again and smearing conservatives with said lie?

Notice how remarking that the libtards jumped to false conclusions on Ms Rhodes being attacked without a shred of evidence is a "smear".

Posted by Tom W. | October 16, 2007 2:18 PM

An ugly, alcoholic, hate-filled, failed talk-show host with horrendous daddy issues lied about injuring herself and tried to garner attention and sympathy by claiming she was the victim of a crime, and her failed colleagues blamed it on a conservative conspiracy?

Well, I never! Don't that just beat all?

Next you're going to tell me that Nancy Pelosi is a seditious, facelifted, incompetent, repulsive, hypocritical harpy.

Posted by Swede | October 16, 2007 2:19 PM

They're still on the air?

Huh, who knew?

I thought it was funny her partner in slime would conjecture that conservatives were trying to silence her. Anybody with the google button can look up the well documented cases of moonbat violence against those who practice reason and logic and utilize tools such as facts.

Posted by coldwarrior415 | October 16, 2007 2:20 PM

Pelosi had a face lift?

Posted by unclesmrgol | October 16, 2007 2:22 PM

Well, it sounds like Rhodes is as ok as a person who fell can be. From her brief description, it seems like an achilles' tendon problem.

It was her substitute Jon Elliot that claimed a mugging and tried to fan the flames, not Randi Rhodes herself. She could have run with the story her co-host put on the air, but thankfully she's honest.

I wonder if Elliot will get Imus'd as a result of his unfounded discriminatory accusation?

Posted by NoDonkey | October 16, 2007 2:31 PM

"Pelosi had a face lift?"

That explains it. And I thought Pelosi was just wearing the joker mask Jack Nicholson donned for the Batman movie a few years back. Kind of a year round, Halloweeny thing.

Who is Pelosi's plastic surgeon? Salvador Dali?

Posted by patrick neid | October 16, 2007 2:38 PM

Even if she wasn't mugged by a conservative it's the thought that counts! It's how you end up running for the Senate in Minnesota.

Posted by Kyle Haight | October 16, 2007 2:39 PM

Chuck, I find your comment baffling. Ed made an observation that bigotry can be found among liberals. This observation seems to be well backed up by facts. He made no comments about the "conservative mindset", and did not even hint that conservatives are all utterly free of bigotry.

Is there some general rule that, when making an observation of something bad about people on one side of the political spectrum, one must always at the same time note whether the same criticism can be made of people on the other side? I've never been aware of such a rule, and if there is I certainly see a lot of people on the left who don't follow it. (And, to cover myself, I also see a lot of people on the right who don't follow it. But I think that is to be expected, since in fact there is no such rule.)

Posted by Gmax | October 16, 2007 2:45 PM

Well I was about to sign on and post that we could count down to the progs start chanting about being "swiftboated" but I see in one of those truth stranger than parody moments, that Chuck has already picked up the flagstaff and is busily unfurling it on the battlefield.

" Think Progress" was all over this story. Proving to be an absolute oxymoron of an entity name. No thinking going on and certainly nothing about progress. Of course "Think Progressive" would be fitting and at least truth telling, as in seeing the VRWC behind every damn thing imaginable no matter how big a stretch or how damned improbable.

Posted by hunter | October 16, 2007 2:45 PM

Air America? what is that? Never heard of 'em.

Posted by Yashmak | October 16, 2007 2:46 PM

"Trust me, that Bigotry is on the right too.
Stop smearing and stick to the damn issue."
-Chuck Adkins

He never claimed it wasn't, nor did he smear anyone. Accusing him of doing so when he didn't? THAT'S a smear.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle, according to GI Joe.

Posted by coldwarrior415 | October 16, 2007 2:49 PM

Randi Rhodes did nothing wrong. She fell. No major damage, doing fine.

But, Jon Elliott on the other hand, is the real story in a big way. Sure, it may have been a flip comment....but look at what flip comments from Conservatives develop into.

There are those who, even after Rhodes and her lawyer made it clear there was no mugging, will shill for the Left and use this as yet another "example" of the intolerant Right.


Embarrassment for Air America, Ed?

They have proven themselves way way beyond embarrassment.

Credibility?

When has credibility ever meant anything for them?

Posted by TerryD | October 16, 2007 3:02 PM

Reading over at the Anti-Idiotarian Rottwieler, one finds an interesting (though not yet confirmed) story (attributed to a commenter from Gawker.com)about this incident.

Seems (according to the story) "Randi Rhodes was no more assaulted by a right-wing fanatic on Monday than Dick Cheney was. She, in fact, fell down and injured her teeth outside of a Midtown Irish bar at around 6 o’clock Sunday evening after downing about fourteen Ketel One Bloody Marys. She was abusive to the barstaff and generally gross, crass, loud, and pretentious. I genuinely hope she has a speedy recovery. I never would’ve disclosed this (I believe that anyone should feel free to hang out at Irish pubs at any time and not be concerned about someone publishing their behavior) if Air America hadn’t grossly interpreted a drunken indiscretion and allowed it to be morphed into some bullish rhetoric on air. Whatever journalistic integrity the station may have ever had is now completely compromised. The manipulation of the public diminishes any cause, whether just or fabricated."

I've known sailors that had problems with just 4 of those things.

Posted by docjim505 | October 16, 2007 3:13 PM

"Is this an attempt by the right-wing, hate machine to silence one of our own?" he asked on the air, according to Talking Radio, a blog. "Are we threatening them? Are they afraid that we’re winning? Are they trying to silence intimidate us?":

Air America is still on the air??? Who knew? Seriously. Who knew?

Posted by NoDonkey | October 16, 2007 3:13 PM

"fourteen Ketel One Bloody Marys"

At an Irish Bar?

That commie ruskie stuff will kill you.

She'd be much more pleasant (and healthy) if she had downed 14 pints of Guinness.

But then, Guinness will take a lot longer to get you plastered. And the tomato juice is healthy, at least until it gets deposited on the sidewalk.

"I've known sailors that had problems with just 4 of those things."

Sailors again? How do we get interjected into everything, swabby?

I know if I was drinking bloody mary at an Irish Bar with my Navy buddies, they would be questioning more than just my beverage choice.

Posted by bt | October 16, 2007 3:15 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will, but the links provided seem to show exactly ONE person saying it was someone on the right who MAY have done it, and a number of links to liberal blogs either reporting what Elliot said, or distinctly qualifying their comments by saying no one knows what exactly happened, and then giving examples of other Liberals being attacked. And this, somehow, is suppose to reflect poorly on the ENTIRE Liberal cause HOW, exactly?

Meanwhile, those of you here are quick to point out:

-Randi Rhodes is ugly
-No one listens to Air America
-Because ONE pundit on Air America made this false claim, we can safely say "Air America lies".

This should be a story condemning Elliot, at most, but instead you guys cast the net to indict anyone who didn't vote for GWB. I'm not following the logic.

Posted by Neo | October 16, 2007 3:18 PM

This is the second story that made it big time in the blogsphere in the past week that was bogus, but that didn't stop line and lines of bigotry from being posted.

First, we had General Richard Sanchez whose speech was so distorted by the AP that both the right and left had something good and bad to praise and condemn. Each level of the "cascade" that published the reports of this story seemed dead set on mimicking that old child's game of mangling the story by reinterpretation, cherry-picking and outright distortion. But a careful reading of the actual speech would have had the right saying OK and the left saying it's the same old same old from the military.

Most of the posters at this site should know better than to only read the stuff out of the AP, especially when it deals with interpreting what someone has said.

Then we had this story about Randi Rhodes being mugged by the VRWC. Then it turns out she fell.

Either this is just sloppiness or ideology does trumph the truth.

Posted by swabjockey05 | October 16, 2007 3:23 PM

No way, No Donk. We still go by the "don't ask don't tell".

Posted by lexhamfox | October 16, 2007 3:26 PM

I was surprised to hear that they were still on the air. It's pretty funny for fringe partisans from either side of the political spectrum to accuse the other extreme of bigotry. Anne's recent remarks on Jews spring to mind as well as certain Democrats claiming Barak isn't black 'enough.'

I pity both fringes.

Posted by Otter | October 16, 2007 3:28 PM

That commie ruskie stuff will kill you.

Ketel One is Dutch.

Posted by Todd | October 16, 2007 3:31 PM

Take two random cars: One with a "W" sticker (or similar) in the back window, parked in, say, Berkeley, CA. The other with a "Hillary '08" sticker (or similar) parked in, say, (fill in major Red State area of your choice.

Which is most likely to be "keyed"? Seriously.

1) Air America's audience is embarrassingly insignificant.

2) Unless they work REALLY hard at it, radio personalities are notoriously unrecognizable in public.

3) This happened away from anything station-related.

If she HAD been mugged, it would have been some single-minded stalker, or random nut-job. Sorry, Lefties... pinning this on any Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy is a stretch even for YOU.

Posted by Fang | October 16, 2007 3:34 PM

Wow. Who wudda thunk it? Bless Randi's heart. I hope she's OK. If I hit the pavement at my age they'd have to scrape me up with a shovel. My take after this fiasco is that there's a bazillion lib bloggers out there and not an ounce of maturity or rationality between them. Flinging peas indeed! Why does any intelligent human being want to engage such creatures in the first place? My god, get away from them as fast as you can or you will simply poison your spirit.

Posted by bt | October 16, 2007 3:40 PM

Todd, you asked:

"Which is most likely to be "keyed"? Seriously."

here is your answer:

http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=439


"YOU ###### YOU VOTED FOR THAT WAR CRIMINAL. I’M GOING TO BEAT THE #### OUT OF YOU.” Guy is turning a shade of purple. I don’t think he’s just putting on a show. He actually sped up, nearly rammed with his car at high speed and is now seriously contemplating attacking me over a bumper sticker"

All of this because the author had a Kerry bumper sticker. Sure, his car wasn't keyed, but he was followed home, verbally threatened, nearly run off the road and cursed at. Because he had a Kerry bumper sticker.

Posted by NoDonkey | October 16, 2007 3:42 PM

Otto,

Did not know that. Thanks for the info. Russians invented it though, didn't they?

Shame too. I was in Amsterdam last spring and with all the fine beer available there, why would anyone need vodka?

Except for a raging alcoholic. Not that there's any evidence of that. Lots of regular people drink 14 bloody marys and pass out on city sidewalks.

How much was her bar tab and how many rubles does she clear a year? She should think about giving back, rather than drinking her ill gotten wages.

Bet she said all sorts of nice, supportive things about Rush when he got nabbed for the prescription drug thing.


Posted by virtue001 | October 16, 2007 3:54 PM

I seem to recall a New York TV talk show lunatic named Morton Downey Jr. claiming he was beat up by right wing neo-Nazis in a public restroom. Only problem was that the swastika "they" had drawn on his face was drawn in reverse, meaning he drew it on himself in the mirror. Police quickly deduced he had actually beaten himself up for the publicity. That was the end of Morton Downey Jr.

So, Randi, please, tell us once again what happened? You've been awfully quiet since your pal Jon Elliot hit the airwaves and demanded to know, “Is this an attempt by the right wing hate machine to silence one of our own. Are we threatening them? Are they afraid that we’re winning? Are they trying to silence intimidate us?”

Relax, Jon. Paranoia will destroy ya. The answer to all four of your questions is no. But you already know that. Because Randi is lying. And so are you.

Posted by LeaningRt | October 16, 2007 4:04 PM

http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/10/tuesday_open_th_58.php?comments=1#comments

Click above LB....you can always count on this site...the official Democratic Party website to spew venom over the issue. They may have taken their cue from a libo talk show host, but they extended it to a whole new level of hysteria. They are so far left, half their insults fly in the face of Hilary as they do to the "Repugs". But don't anticipate intellectual debate. The moment somebody begins debating with them (even without insult), they delete the posts.

In their defense, they do say that they don't "want" debate, they just want to exchange liberal ideas.

Posted by kreiz | October 16, 2007 4:06 PM

Not to worry, Ed- something tells me that Oliver Stone will buy the film rights, and fiction will once again triumph over fact. Cf. JFK.

Posted by SoldiersMom | October 16, 2007 4:10 PM

Why would any conservative WANT to shut up a liberal. They're are their own worst enemy. The more they talk, the more people are exposed to their lies.

Along these lines, I work for a company who is in the midst of contract negotiations with the union. The old contract expired several weeks ago (presently working with no contract). Well today I heard the union members in my unit were furious -- furious at their union reps for omitting certain pertinent issues the company has been proposing! In other words, their union reps have been lying by omission to their members (sound familiar?) to garner support for their proposals. Suspecting such, the company sent out the "Final Proposals" to all the salaried today with instructions it was "not" to be passed onto Union members (knowing full well it would be).

It's just democrats doing what democrats do best - lie.

Posted by Otter | October 16, 2007 4:22 PM

SoldiersMom has called it. Not sure I hear this particular... Can't call her a lady, and the proper word is banned here... 'woman,' I suppose?

Anyway, I can pick up AM 1530 here in Southern Ontario, and Yes, Harm America is still on the air on that station. I can never listen to it more than 2-3 minutes at a time due to the constant barrage of demeaning, hate-filled, demonizing words dumping from that woman's... mouth? I suspect the Only person right of Lieberman that she might like is ron paul.

A perfect example of why we would NOT want to shut them up. They pretty much sink themselves... Oh Yes, they Have sunk themselves. How they manage to stay on the air.....

(just found 1530, out of Cincinatti. Different.... 'woman,' I guess).

Posted by Bithead | October 16, 2007 4:23 PM

Trust me, that Bigotry is on the right too.

Not of the kind I captured on your blog and posted on mine, Chuckles.
.
Believe me when I tell you, you're in no position to be talking about someone else's bigotry.

Posted by Del Dolemonte | October 16, 2007 4:25 PM

Here's one of the "comments" at the first site Captain Ed linked to. bk, pay attention!

"Adolph Hitler’s right wing thugs regularly “mugged” opponents and members of unpopular groups even before he came to power.
The people who support the current administration have repeatedly demonstrated their belief that they are entitled to engage in all types of reprehensible behavior to further their cause.
Given Randi Rhodes courageous outspokenness about the sinister intentions of the right wing, it is not unreasonable to suspect that this non-robbery assault is an attempt by Neo-conservative thugs to silence her views."

Posted by sestamibi | October 16, 2007 4:25 PM

bt--

You provide one anecdote and that's the whole proof? Once again, with moonbats the truth is whatever they believe it to be.

By the way, Randi Rhodes is far from ugly. Loathesome for sure, but still a fairly hot babe.

Posted by Otter | October 16, 2007 4:25 PM

There's two Otters here?

Posted by Del Dolemonte | October 16, 2007 4:30 PM

bt said:

"Which is most likely to be "keyed"? Seriously."

here is your answer:

http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=439"

LOL! This poor college kid is STILL displaying a Jean Kerry bumper sticker from 2004 on his car? That's so 3 years ago...

Posted by njcommuter | October 16, 2007 5:03 PM

If this goes on long enough, the Shrieking Banshee Left may actually start to lose credibility with the mid-left. That sounds like good news.

On cars and bumper stickers: I saw an interesting one today.

Top line:
---------- Republicans place on FRONT bumper.

Middle line: LARGE type:
-------------- RUN, Hillary, RUN

Bottom line:
----------- Democrats place on REAR bumper.

Sadly, it was on the rear .... Of course, it could just be the Left baiting Republicans into ssmeeaarrinnggg Hillery.

Posted by BB | October 16, 2007 5:17 PM

Don't you love living a country so peaceable, that one simply can't find an oppositionist willing to beat you up to let you gain "moral authority?"

Posted by Del Dolemonte | October 16, 2007 5:23 PM

"Air America released a statement saying that "the reports of a presumed hate crime are unfounded." Elliott followed that up with a retraction.

"I shouldn't have speculated based on hearsay that Randi Rhodes had been mugged and that it may have been an attack from a right wing hate machine. I apologize for jumping to conclusions based on an emotional reaction," he said in a written statement."

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--people-randirhode1016oct16,0,7372381.story

Posted by Only One Cannoli | October 16, 2007 5:41 PM

NoDonkey wrote: with all the fine beer available there, why would anyone need vodka?

whoa, easy there, mister. See, what few beer drinkers realize is that vodka isn't really made from grain or potatoes ... it's actually distilled cake frosting. ;)

And apparently Ms Rhodes doesn't realize that she can save her rubles and go with a cheaper brand than Ketel One for such a strongly flavored drink as a bloody mary.

Posted by NoDonkey | October 16, 2007 6:07 PM

O to the O to the C,

Exactly. And Ketel is so bourgeoisie.

Real progressive boozebags guzzle bar liquor.

She's just a poseur.

Posted by whippoorwill | October 16, 2007 6:13 PM

Of Course the left has bigotry towards the 30 percenter's still supporting Bush style conservatism on the right, who are ably represented by this site.

And I'm positive the reverse is true. I know I'm prejudiced and intolerant of the viewpoints of the current Bushite minority. Although I would instead call it partisanship, even of the fierce variety.

Posted by Steve Skubinna | October 16, 2007 6:22 PM

You guys just don't get it! Suppose Randi Rhodes HAD been mugged, then suppose that a right wing guy, maybe even a blogger did it? See, it's not impossible! And hypothetical hate crimes are just as bad as real ones, q.v. the Duke non rape case.

Whether Rhodes was mugged or not isn't the issue - the issue is that there are people on the right who are in opposition to Air America's agenda. And that is intolerable.

Posted by richard mcenroe | October 16, 2007 6:27 PM

I'm just shocked at the suggestion that an obscure radio personality would ever abuse mind-altering chemicals.

Posted by Edward | October 16, 2007 6:36 PM

Ummm... so who's this Randi Rhodes?

Seriously, this seems to be one of those things that hardcore political junkies can't keep away from, but it has nothing to do with anything and doesn't advance any agenda or make a bit of difference to anyone's life but hers.

I come here for insight into the conservative mind, for well thought out arguments from the opposition so that I am better able to approach the issues, maybe even change my mind from time to time. I didn't come here to watch gotcha games play out like it's a second Free Republic.

Ed... it's your site, but most of us here are grownups.... could you treat us as such and let Michele Malkin take these stories?

Posted by Del Dolemonte | October 16, 2007 6:51 PM

Edward says:

"Seriously, this seems to be one of those things that hardcore political junkies can't keep away from, but it has nothing to do with anything and doesn't advance any agenda or make a bit of difference to anyone's life but hers."

Not true-her Air America colleague was the one who immediately tried to advance a political agenda with this story, and he later had to issue a mea culpa. You're trying to tell us that a national radio host falsely accusing people of hate crimes is a non-story? Maybe in your Ivory Tower, but not in the rest of America.

And it wasn't the "opposition" that floated the idea that conservative brownshirts might have been trying to silence her. It was a "grownup" with a political philosophy like yours who started the fire, not the people here at CQ.

Posted by Edward | October 16, 2007 7:13 PM

Del... Calling Elliot a 'national radio host' is pretty much creating a strawman to knock down in my book. Giving him way too much credit.

I'm in an Ivory Tower? Cool! (you all look like little tiny ants down there)

And so because this Elliot guy I've never heard of (really) said some stupid stuff you feel free to paint me with the same brush (firestarting?) because of our supposedly shared ideology?

Whatever dude. It still has nothing to do with me. Or you. Or anyone here. Unless you really think that this particular incident is going to change the outcome of the next or any national elections???

It's as silly as censuring Moveon for a flippin advertisment. Or as silly as censuring Rush for doing what he does.

Posted by bt | October 16, 2007 7:36 PM

You guys are something else. You ask who is more likely to get their car keyed, and I provide ONE verifiable answer. I never claimed it "proved" anything, other than the idea that insanity does not reside on only one side of the aisle. Since I can't find a website devoted solely to attacks from the right on people with lefty bumper stickers, citing hundreds of examples, my post is not valid.

And for that, of course, I am called a shrieking banshee moonbat, even though I've called no one here anything. Thanks for the productive give and take. Next time, I'll just call you names, and try to think of something to call someone on the right that approaches the hilarity of "Jean Kerry".

Posted by paul a'barge | October 16, 2007 7:48 PM

She may still have all her teeth, but her mouth is still the stinkiest hole in her body.

Posted by unclesmrgol | October 16, 2007 7:52 PM

bt,

Interesting, except for the Kerry bumper sticker, that could have been me. In fact, I almost beat you with my post earlier today about my own incident, except I decided to post something else instead, which I felt more aptly described the situation (one co-host shooting off his mouth with a falsehood, and a ton of posters singing the refrain). My bumper sticker was a home-designed band-aid with a purple heart on top of it (you can guess the election). My car was keyed, and the sticker defaced, at my home, on a block with two people who still have their Kerry-Edwards stickers on, and one woman two doors down (who I know wouldn't do this) with a ton of liberal stickers (well, twelve of them anyway) on the back of her car and on the picture window of her house.

I no longer put bumper stickers on my car. Too risky -- I should have learned when a guy tried to run me off the road because of my motorcycle's UCLA license plate frame. My bet is on one of the two neighbors with the Kerry stickers, but it's only a bet, not a sure thing.

My guess is, given the nature of humanity, that if you put on a liberal sticker in a conservative neighborhood, you'll find an anal guy, and ditto of you put on a conservative sticker in a liberal neighborhood. Some people don't respect boundaries.

Posted by GarandFan | October 16, 2007 7:56 PM

"Fall" my ass! That damned dog tripped her! Must be a conservative.

Posted by unclesmrgol | October 16, 2007 8:03 PM

Like Chuck above, who anally outed Malkin's address at the same time he tried like hell to protect his.

Chuck, you ought to move out of mommy's house. It would do you a world of good.

Posted by Bambi | October 16, 2007 9:50 PM

Could any of you get worked up about the L.O.S.T (Treaty of the Sea)? This needs to have wide coverage before our rights are turned over to that bastion of democracy - the UN. Please, all of you look into this before the dems pass it.
Thank heavens it is reported that the stupid "non-binding" (Turkey) resolution is loosing support. Poor nancy!!! As soon as the light of day is shed on some of these dem proposals the people react. Please react! Please let your resps know.

Posted by Bikerken | October 16, 2007 10:00 PM

Nancy Pelosi has had a facelift?

C'mon man, I don't have any inside information but I'll bet she makes Joan Rivers look like a piker! Next time they'll just lower the body. I don't think she has blinked in years, but she's just about to.... on the Armenian resolution.

BT, as far as bumper stickers go, most republicans in San Diego wouldn't dare put a bumper sticker on their car because the odds it would be keyed within a week are very close to 100%. I have to add this to, if you don't think that the angry psycho dems out here are over the line, why are sooooooo many of them still sporting stickers from the 2000 election? I see them everywhere! What freaking losers! Harboring a little grudge are we? One guy in my office building actually has a bumper sticker in the middle of his rear window stating, "I can't believe you mother F***ers actually re-elected Satan!" Oh hell no, this is not the kind of person who would key somebodys car with a Bush-Cheney sticker on it..... would he?

The left is composed of mostly angry childish people. Answer me this, if you see a rusty faded 71 pinto gently dogtracking down the road with the drivers side crushing the shocks and you pull up along side and you see a flab of skin hangning from the left arm holding a cigarette sticking out the window and dragging on the pavement and you look into the car and see what you are sure is either a male or female, but you can't tell because it looks like an armpit with eyeballs and some teeth, and it has bumper stickers all over the windows and back end of the car, what do the bumper stickers say????? Clinton Gore or Bush Cheney???? I win!!!!!

Posted by Del Dolemonte | October 16, 2007 11:11 PM

Bloody Mary: = Great drink, maybe one of the alltime top 10. I love tomato juice... Great stuff, healthy as hell.

Horseradish: See above

Add any wodka you want, it will still be good.

All said and done, though, how could anyone drink more than a couple? I certainly can't see anyone drinking more than 4 Bloodies in one sitting...

Posted by Kevin Hayden | October 17, 2007 2:32 AM

How long do you think it will take for these same bloggers to offer an apology -- one not accompanied by a litany of rationalizations about how mean conservatives are, and how it was impossible not to convict an entire class of people for an imaginary crime? Longer than the next time they trot out an argument for innocent-until-proven-guilty for the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, I'd bet.

As was noted previously in these comments, most of the liberal bloggers cautioned against speculation. And just as rightist bloggers do not require a Stepford Wife oath from commenters, some speculated anyway. Some were venomous. Some ventured into unrelated issues. So we both have big tents and some generalizations left or right remain absurd. That's the First Amendment for ya. It can get weird, but then, I'm speculating you know that and play your share of word games, too.

Apologies? Besides Elliot, I've seen two without looking hard. skippy. Me. I bet there's more. Even though we were among those who cautioned against judgments before the facts were known. I can't speak for anyone else, but after reading what Elliot said, I considered it reasonable to assume that talk show hosts on the same network would base claims on inside information.

I was wrong. About Elliot. His cred has taken a hit and it's between him and the network and him and his listeners whether he can regain it.

I don't, as yet, have any evidence that Rhodes had any active role in the rumor spreading. Nor that Air America did. I also consider it speculation that Rhodes drank 14 Bloody Marys at a neighborhood bar where she was abusive to the staff. How many bars do you go to without money, wallet and accompanied by your dog? When's the last time you could down 14 mixed drinks?

One commenter made those allegations. I've asked several NYers to determine if any Irish pubs exist near where she fell, and if so, to question the staff.

My goal is not to prove anything but just to determine and verify what happened so the speculation and rumors will end, at least for me and my readers.

I don't have to qualify that by pointing fingers at other mistakes made by people who don't share my political views. I published what someone said without a second source as verification. That is a no-no for a journalist. I may not be a journalist, but I do pursue some critical ethical standards necessary for good journalists to adhere to.

I also expect I'll someday make other mistakes. But I'll try not to.

One last point: I don't try to convict "classes of people" by grouping all who don't share my views as one entity. I know moderate Republicans, conservative Republicans, extremist Republicans who fit no logical definition of conservative at all. If Timothy McVeigh was a Republican, he certainly represented none that I met, just as he's not representative of all military veterans.

On the other hand, if all Congressional Republicans vote one way, I think it's fair to criticize them as a group, but even then, I try to remember to qualify them as Congressional Republicans. Which means I don't assume all Republican voters deserve the same criticism.

We would do our readers a greater service by choosing our words carefully when reporting facts. As you know, when expressing opinions, there's greater license to entertain or persuade.

So, see if you can be a little more fair and mature here, setting aside that you're a bugeyed doo-doo poopyhead puppy-squooshing Satan-hugger that doesn't tip well. Jesus might like you, too, if you renounce those sins and vote for Kucinich and accept your wife even if she is a Libyan. I'm sure the Bible will tell you so, but with even more verbosity.

Posted by H | October 17, 2007 3:17 AM

I liked Randi Rhoades more when he was Ozzy's guitarist. RIP RR.

Posted by chessplayer | October 17, 2007 6:29 AM

The Minutemen are physically attacked at Columbia. Starr Parker, Ann Coulter, Bill Kristol, David Horowitz, and Pat Buchanan are physically attacked while speaking at colleges. The donks in Congress try to silence Limbaugh. Now who is attacking who and trying to silence them physically and/or vocally?

Posted by Doug | October 17, 2007 6:32 AM

Apparently, gravity is a republican.

Posted by Jay Lewis | October 17, 2007 8:03 AM

The Air America audience is apparently deluded to think conservatives want them silenced. Just the opposite: If you believe that liberals are idiots, then the best course is to give them a podium and let them demonstrate it. And they do.

In real life, I wish Ms. Rhodes a speedy recovery and pray that her discomfort be eased.

Posted by Shaky | October 17, 2007 8:28 AM

Hah! Of course we, the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, attacked Randy Rhodes. Whoever he is. And now we've SILENCED him! They're all retracting their statements, but THEY know the truth. We have WON and we have them running scared!

We picked our MOST CONSERVATIVE MUGGER to do the job because any amount of ideological compromise is unacceptable when you are mugging someone.

By the way it was nothing personal or even political, we just want more sports talk radio on the stations that play this "Air America". Whatever that is.

Posted by karennkc | October 17, 2007 8:30 AM

I have no interest in this story, whatsoever.

I am tracking back from Michelle Malkin's blog. This ridiculous, superstitious and ignorant woman, just like most of you clowns, has been insulting me, a military family member, since this war started.

Some woman, "Goodwin," wrote into my local paper about the resolution condemning Turkey for genocide and the effect it would have on the troops. She said the Democrats should practice the "diplomacy" they are so fond of.

Goodwin is just your typical ignorant/delusional right-wing hick. “Diplomacy” as well as “good governance” and the “Bush administration” has nothing to do with the truth or reality. These kooks think they can just pick and choose the history that suits them - they have no use for it except to inflate their own self-worth or to nurse their own grievances.

It is absurd that ANYONE would even consider electing Republicans. They don’t read the paper, they only see what they want to see, all Iraqis killed are TERRORISTS, it would be irresponsible to pay for this war – better to pass the buck off to the grandchildren, new recruits can get the desert training they need in Iraq – IN COMBAT, troops don’t need body armor – it’s TOO HEAVY (Michelle Malkin), there is no shortage of these brave Republicans willing to fight this war they started, that is why the Army has lowered it’s standards AGAIN, taking violent criminals, and helicopter gunships don’t need guns. Petraeus “wrote the book” on counterinsurgency, which calls for as many troops to occupy Baghdad as are in the entire country, but it would be treasonous to call him on it. The glowing success in Fallujah, it turns out, is due to MARTIAL LAW, the city is under 24-hour lockdown, surrounded by berms and barbed wire, vehicles are banned and residents had to submit to fingerprints and retina scans to get ID cards that let them stay. How long can they keep this up after the troops pull out? Osama bin Laden, meanwhile, is not off in a cave somewhere plotting more attacks; he is “impotent.”

These backwards, backwoods throwbacks can even say with absolute certainly that global warming is a hoax while their own military leaders quietly go about discussing the need for new policies that would “oblige intergovernmental cooperation” by future U.S. administrations, knowing that environmental stresses may severely damage economies, destabilize political systems and upend millions of lives, causing mass migrations across international borders, including our own.

These hicks are a disgrace to this country.

Posted by BostonRay | October 17, 2007 9:25 AM

Yo! karennkc! My considered diagnosis is that you have skipped way too-o-o many of your therapy sessions. The doctors must be pissed. Why do I suspect my tax money is being used to treat your paranoia? Spitting your way through, what I guess you call, a 'statement' is indicative of a complete failure of your reality gene.

Posted by Bullwinkle | October 17, 2007 9:41 AM

I see a different conspiracy. Anyone care to guess how many more listeners this gal will have when she shows up on Thursday than she did before the accident?

That was my first thought, my second thought was to see if her dog was a Republican.

Posted by CheckSum | October 17, 2007 10:11 AM

This ridiculous, superstitious and ignorant woman, just like most of you clowns, has been insulting me...

So, do you consider "insulting" a bad thing?

Posted by TyCaptains | October 17, 2007 12:36 PM

Jay Lewis:The Air America audience is apparently deluded to think conservatives want them silenced. Just the opposite: If you believe that liberals are idiots, then the best course is to give them a podium and let them demonstrate it. And they do.

So you were for the Pres. of Iran speaking at Columbia?

Posted by gary fouse | October 17, 2007 1:05 PM

Here's another liberal fantasy involving Al Sharpton

The "Palmdale 4"-An Update

Last week I posted an article about the arrest of three black high school students and their mother at Knight High School in Palmdale, California after one of the youths had to be restrained by a campus security guard. The incident has become a cause celeb among the LA black activist community and Al Sharpton.

In the past few days, a number of new developments have come to light:

According to Sheriff's investigation it appears that the girl involved, Pleahje Mervin, began the confrontation when she threw a cake onto the ground (instead of dropping it as originally reported. - See article by Ann Simmons, LA Times, 10-13-07).

The investigation also has indicated that Mervin was placed in a restraining hold, at which time, she flopped herself down on a table. Mervin has claimed that the guard pinned her on the table (Simmons, 10-13-07).

There was an allegation that the guard called Mervin a "nappy-head", an accusation which apparently has also been debunked, according to reports on the John and Ken talk show on 10-15-07.

Ann Simmons, in her LA Times article of 10-13-07, stated that Lancaster Community Hospital authorities declined to comment about their treatment of Mervin. Yet, the doctor involved (speaking with the permission of Mervin's mother) earlier told ABC reporter, Leo Stallworth as well as KFI Radio officials that there were no injuries to Mervin. It now appears that Mervin's mother has lifted permission of medical authorities to comment on Mervin's condition. Therefore, the LA Times, unable to catch up on the story, is not reporting that there were no injuries as claimed by Mervin, her mother, Al Sharpton and numerous other activists.

In connection with that article, KFI has been notified by one of their listeners that she had e-mailed Simmons asking why the Times would continue to state that hospital officials would not comment, and therefore, would not report the apparent fact as reported by ABC News and KFI that the doctor had denied any injuries to the girl (when he had parental permission to speak.) The listener stated that she received a response from Simmons thanking her for her interest;that the hospital had declined to comment, and that the Times would continue to pursue the facts of the story (I am paraphrasing). Well, if accurate, that sounds like the responses I get when I write to a politician.

Meanwhile, according to an ABC News article written 10-12-07, Najee Ali, the principal activist in this story, has reportedly called the black Republican mayor of nearby Lancaster, Henry Hearns, an "Uncle Tom" over the failure of Hearns to speak out in the matter. Great.

So, as the story continues to unfold, a couple of questions are in order:

To Ms Simmons of the LA Times: Are you legally constrained from reporting the previous statements of the doctor that there were no injuries? Do you concede that your readers are not getting an important piece of the story?

To Al Sharpton: Do you still plan to protest in Palmdale in November? Are you prepared to retract your statements made in LA that Mervin's arm was broken, and that the guard was culpable of unnecessary force? (No, I don't really think that Sharpton reads my blog.)

Will Ali, Sharpton et al issue an apology to the guard and everybody else they have slandered? Don't bet on it. In my view, this is a classic case of how racial hucksters like Al Sharpton and Najee Ali are actively hurting race relations in our society.

gary fouse
fousesquawk

Posted by coldwarrior415 | October 17, 2007 1:50 PM

In other news, Morgan-Stanley apparently just dumped ALL their shares in the New York Times. About time.

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